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Nah. Just had a lovely day out with the family and have better things to do on a Saturday night than argue the toss with total strangers on a football message board about things happening over the pond that none of us can influence.
I put my point of view. You may disagree. That's cool, but neither of us will have our lives enhanced by going back and forward trying to win the internet. It may give you some joy but it's really not my scene mate.
But you boys crack on if you want. I'm sure the next few pages of mutual backslapping and up arrowing will make riveting reading when I take my morning dump
In a thread where posters have discussed dehumanising other people, to refer to a fellow poster as "it" four times is absolutely disgusting in my opinion.
And I'm particularly saddened to see one poster I hold in high regard giving such dehumanisation an up arrow.
I think I'll bail from this thread as some of the language is straight out of the Charlie Kirk playbook. Very Alanis Morissette.
Hitler was a Nazi. Nazism differs greatly from fascism inasmuch as racial hatred and genocide of races thought of as inferior is at the heart of Nazism whereas as fascism traditioniibaly focussed on totalitarianism and nationalism without the racial hatred. Hitler took the parts of fascism he liked and devolved a whole new evil concept.
That’s why I posted last night that people shouldn’t throw around terms like Nazis and fascist at people whose views we find abhorrent. And I completely reject the views of Charlie Kirk. But using terms that people don’t completely understand, such as fascism, is very sixth form imo and comes with deliberate shock factor, we can’t call everyone we disagree with Nazis or fascist. It trivialises both terms.
But what I’ve written is probably too wordy to inspire somebody to pick up a gun and kill him whereas throwing around words like fascist isnt.
Most of Charlie Kirk’s abhorrent views come from the point of his religious beliefs. He was basically a white toothed clean cut version of the Westborough baptists. He was a right wing Christian conservative. His views were also all over the place with his anti vax stance during COVID etc. he spread misinformation and his support of Trump was desperately at odds with his religious beliefs. It’s hard to put Charlie Kirk into one particular box.
Did he share sone views that could be attributed to fascism? Yes. But then so do many far right religious groups such as the Taliban, the Iranian regime etc. That doesn’t make them fascists and it’s just an oversimplification to call him one. It’s lazy name calling from people with little understanding of history and what fascism actually is.
Edit. I wish I had more time to contribute to this but I’m off somewhere so may return to this later or tomorrow.
Not sure I agree. He adds balance to the team and was solid all night if unspectacular. Looked like the old Ipswich. All the creativity from the left and the graft on the right.