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Reply | I'd be worrying about myself quite frankly......
at 09:22 27 Apr 2025
The stench of desperation in that thread is beautiful to behold. Their complete lack of perspective on us is going to make next season all the sweeter, if they genuinely believe the absolute nonsense they're posting. I can't wait. |
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Reply | Davis a possible target
at 22:13 23 Apr 2025
For me he should be playing where Jack Clarke is, with a fullback e.g. Townsend behind him. Seems a no brainer. Johnson and Tuanzebe have worked well that way on the other side. Maybe we'd actually have some midfield presence then and not get shat on from a great height in the middle third game after game. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 12:13 21 Apr 2025
There was a moment second half where an arsenal player had a fistful of the back of Hirst's shirt in the box, to the point of it being stretched out a good 4 or 5 inches, clear as day. We got nowt for it.
Of course that won't be mentioned on MOTD, endlessly debated on twitter etc. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 12:01 21 Apr 2025
Have you read what I've written? Re-read my OP. At no point have I attempted to debate whether it was a deserved red.
If you were arguing with someone as to whether it should be red or yellow, a misleading still like that after the contact, which makes it look like the challenge is worse than it actually was, would support your argument.
He caught him on the heel on the back of his boot. What's so difficult to grasp? |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 11:50 21 Apr 2025
No it doesn't. Again, that's after the contact. Look at Davis. Look at his body position, he's off balance and falling. Compare it to the shot I posted of the moment of contact.
It's a 2d shot which makes it hard to judge depth etc. It's misleading. The two players aren't touching in that image, Davis is behind him. It was posted by someone arguing that it was a deserved red and they chose that image as it appears to support their argument and makes the challenge look worse than it was. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 11:38 21 Apr 2025
Even more telling is Davis' position in that shot. That's not the point of contact, it's clearly after and Davis is totally off balance. Whoever posted that deliberately chose that shot as it makes it look worse, presumably with the agenda of arguing it was a deserved red. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 11:28 21 Apr 2025
I think that screenshot is misleading, that's after the contact. Having watched it in motion numerous times, I stand by the statement that Leif's boot only makes contact with the back of Saka's.
We're probably splitting hairs and I don't doubt he felt the contact. But I also think Arsenal knew what they were doing to influence the officials. Saka came off because the crowd got in his head and he was fluffing relatively easy chances. He's not injured. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 11:22 21 Apr 2025
Saka's reaction and subsequent evidence of not actually being harmed in any way just shows what we already knew, when it comes to the dark arts which seem to be an unfortunate necessity in this division, we are a long long way behind.
Saka deserved the reaction he got from our fans and it also seemed to affect him as he then missed two sitters infront of the north stand.
Those Town fans repeating the narrative that it was a horror stamp on his calf and we should be ashamed of giving him pelters after, are part of the problem for me. Be on the inside p!ssing out folks. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 11:08 21 Apr 2025
The best screenshot from the moment of contact I can manage.
Stupid, unnecessary challenge? Yes.
Stamp or rake down the back of his calf? I just don't see it.
High up the back of his calf, as Phil put in his match report? Never in a million years. [Post edited 21 Apr 11:09]
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 10:32 21 Apr 2025
Watch the highlights, unless there's an angle I've not seen, it seems highly debatable whether Leif even touched his sock. The way the challenge is being described and what the replays show do not match. |
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Reply | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 10:05 21 Apr 2025
Clearly it is a challenge deemed far more severe at this level than I would say it is, I'm not debating that. I'm just a bit confused as to why. In the EFL that's a booking and you might even get away with it altogether if the ref is weak. |
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Thread | Even Phil is at it - "high up the back of his calf"
at 09:57 21 Apr 2025
Admittedly I don't watch a vast amount of premier league football that doesn't involve us, but I'm still utterly bemused as to how that is deemed a red card offence and according to VAR "endangering the safety of an opposition player".
No part of Davis' boot makes contact with anything other than the back of Saka's boot. It's a bit naughty, yes, but I've seen countless comparable challenges in the 30 years I've been watching Town and I don't remember ever seeing a straight red for that kind of tackle before. If it was higher or with more force or with deliberate intent, then yes.
Not trying to change anyone's mind, just genuinely interested as to why that challenge was punished in the way it was. Doesn't make sense to me and I'm just seeing repeated references to it being far worse than the replays show it actually was. |
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Reply | Booing Saka
at 15:04 20 Apr 2025
He turned up in an Arsenal shirt.
Thank fook all our fans aren't as powderpuff as you. Nothing that might contribute to a key opposition player having a weak game is "poor" or "embarrassing" ever. He's missed 2 sitters since we started giving him stick. I guarantee you the scoreline would be 0-4 otherwise. |
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