| "My goal is to build a more united UK" 17:16 - Mar 27 with 8828 views | Darth_Koont |
Baby steps, Theresa. Baby steps.
Let's first see if you can organise a p!ssup in a brewery. |  |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:18 - Mar 27 with 2982 views | Swansea_Blue |
Quite an amazing lack of self-awareness isn't it. Although to be fair to her it was the muppets that came before her that did the damage. |  |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:27 - Mar 27 with 2948 views | Darth_Koont |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:18 - Mar 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite an amazing lack of self-awareness isn't it. Although to be fair to her it was the muppets that came before her that did the damage. |
Indeed. Bit of a poisoned chalice but she seems to have drained it and then asked for a refill.
The scene was set for her to come in and arrange a cooling-off period after the referendum but she instead decided to sell out and go for the worst type of rhetoric and long-term solution. And she has shown herself only interested in a united Tory party and UKIP-loving power base. Trumptastic power-grabbing, I'll give her that. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:29 - Mar 27 with 2934 views | pickles110564 |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:27 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed. Bit of a poisoned chalice but she seems to have drained it and then asked for a refill.
The scene was set for her to come in and arrange a cooling-off period after the referendum but she instead decided to sell out and go for the worst type of rhetoric and long-term solution. And she has shown herself only interested in a united Tory party and UKIP-loving power base. Trumptastic power-grabbing, I'll give her that. |
But thats not what the majority want, we do not want a cooling off period we want them to get on with it. |  | | |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:38 - Mar 27 with 2900 views | Darth_Koont |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:29 - Mar 27 by pickles110564 |
But thats not what the majority want, we do not want a cooling off period we want them to get on with it. |
Get on with Taking Back Control you mean? This is the problem - it sounds good but it's an empty soundbite in the real world. In reality the control is disappearing rapidly and now we're the junior partner in negotiations about our future, never mind the Union being in a perilous state.
Still I suppose our failure will at least be a red, white and blue failure. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:51 - Mar 27 with 2786 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:55 - Mar 27 with 2827 views | vapour_trail |
More meaningless drivel. Who comes up with this nonsense.
(May's, not yours DK) |  |
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| I've seen the letter triggering Article 50 on 17:56 - Mar 27 with 2831 views | factual_blue |
Dear EU,
In the mistaken belief that it's possible to erase the last one hundred years, a slender majority of the electorate that bothered to vote has decided it wants the currently United Kingdom wants to leave the EU.
Like most people with more than an iota of common sense, I realise this enterprise will be a futile exercise, but the non-resident owners of newspapers like the mail and the sun have whipped up enough people who believe Britain can return to the heady days of early 1914, before two wars bankrupted this country and destroyed our position as a world power.
We will of course, expect to receive back moneys owed to the UK from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and other now-departed countries and empires.
Above all, I must look to preserve the tory party.
Lots of love
Teresa May. [Post edited 27 Mar 2017 17:57]
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:05 - Mar 27 with 2797 views | Darth_Koont |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:55 - Mar 27 by vapour_trail |
More meaningless drivel. Who comes up with this nonsense.
(May's, not yours DK) |
It got worse when she hit her stride and started talking about a stronger, fairer, more outward-looking and united Britain.
The response to that should have been laughter. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:06 - Mar 27 with 2793 views | patrickswell |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:38 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
Get on with Taking Back Control you mean? This is the problem - it sounds good but it's an empty soundbite in the real world. In reality the control is disappearing rapidly and now we're the junior partner in negotiations about our future, never mind the Union being in a perilous state.
Still I suppose our failure will at least be a red, white and blue failure. |
Indeed, not to mention "We want to take back parliamentary sovereignty (which wasn't fully subservient to the EU anyway),"
Great, so will you support these amendments allowing parliament a vote on the terms of the final deal?
Nah, we'll just take David Davis's word for it that it will be all OK.
I actually have more contempt for the likes of Soubry, Morgan, Grieve, Clarke who talked the talk, but wimped out come vote time. |  | | |
| I've seen the letter triggering Article 50 on 18:11 - Mar 27 with 2757 views | GeoffSentence |
| I've seen the letter triggering Article 50 on 17:56 - Mar 27 by factual_blue |
Dear EU,
In the mistaken belief that it's possible to erase the last one hundred years, a slender majority of the electorate that bothered to vote has decided it wants the currently United Kingdom wants to leave the EU.
Like most people with more than an iota of common sense, I realise this enterprise will be a futile exercise, but the non-resident owners of newspapers like the mail and the sun have whipped up enough people who believe Britain can return to the heady days of early 1914, before two wars bankrupted this country and destroyed our position as a world power.
We will of course, expect to receive back moneys owed to the UK from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and other now-departed countries and empires.
Above all, I must look to preserve the tory party.
Lots of love
Teresa May. [Post edited 27 Mar 2017 17:57]
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Ain't it great that we have a porn star for PM. |  |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:14 - Mar 27 with 2720 views | blueislander |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:29 - Mar 27 by pickles110564 |
But thats not what the majority want, we do not want a cooling off period we want them to get on with it. |
I assume that you are prepared for there to be no deal with the EU, if we don't get our own way? |  | | |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:18 - Mar 27 with 2702 views | SomethingBlue |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:29 - Mar 27 by pickles110564 |
But thats not what the majority want, we do not want a cooling off period we want them to get on with it. |
You don't have a clue what you want. | |
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| I've seen the letter triggering Article 50 on 18:20 - Mar 27 with 2664 views | factual_blue |
| I've seen the letter triggering Article 50 on 18:11 - Mar 27 by GeoffSentence |
Ain't it great that we have a porn star for PM. |
Well, she certainly wouldn't be any worse. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:23 - Mar 27 with 2650 views | blueislander |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:18 - Mar 27 by SomethingBlue |
You don't have a clue what you want. |
The moon on a stick would adequately describe what they want. | | | |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:32 - Mar 27 with 2616 views | Oscar |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:18 - Mar 27 by SomethingBlue |
You don't have a clue what you want. |
He and his ilk want foreigners out of the country. | | | |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:36 - Mar 27 with 2577 views | factual_blue |
Greater love hath no woman, than she lays down her country for her party. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 18:55 - Mar 27 with 2534 views | bournemouthblue |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 17:18 - Mar 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite an amazing lack of self-awareness isn't it. Although to be fair to her it was the muppets that came before her that did the damage. |
And she is here to finish the job
It's a shame she won't give the Scots their referendum, if they left, she would have to leave also :D |  |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 19:14 - Mar 27 with 2494 views | ThePitBoss |
The war is over.
Stand down soldier. |  | | |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:10 - Mar 27 with 2414 views | Darth_Koont |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 19:14 - Mar 27 by ThePitBoss |
The war is over.
Stand down soldier. |
The war is over??!
It hasn't even started yet. But you're right to think in terms of struggle and sacrifice. I take no pleasure in the fact that those who voted to Leave will suffer the major casualties.
And will it be worth it? Not a chance. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:15 - Mar 27 with 2394 views | J2BLUE |
Britain after Brexit QT special on BBC1 in 15 mins. |  |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:18 - Mar 27 with 2389 views | pistonbroke |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:10 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
The war is over??!
It hasn't even started yet. But you're right to think in terms of struggle and sacrifice. I take no pleasure in the fact that those who voted to Leave will suffer the major casualties.
And will it be worth it? Not a chance. |
Please explain with actual facts , not guesses why we will be worse off and suffer | | | |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:23 - Mar 27 with 2373 views | blueislander |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:18 - Mar 27 by pistonbroke |
Please explain with actual facts , not guesses why we will be worse off and suffer |
We will have to make new trade agreements with the EU on the back of at least two years of acromony. How is that for starters? | | | |
| (No subject) on 20:28 - Mar 27 with 2355 views | Archer4721 |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:18 - Mar 27 by pistonbroke |
Please explain with actual facts , not guesses why we will be worse off and suffer |
Try reading this from the FT.
https://www.ft.com/content/e7c69670-0f0c-11e7-b030-768954394623
Britain will face nuclear fuel shortages, truck queues at Dover and “serious disruption” to air traffic if Brexit talks fail, the EU’s chief negotiator has warned as he outlined conditions for an “ambitious” UK-EU trade deal.
In a wide-ranging speech ahead of Article 50 exit talks, Michel Barnier warned Britain it must agree “principles for an orderly withdrawal” before trade talks, including its financial dues and the rights of 4m UK and EU migrants.
Speaking shortly after reports of a shooting incident at the British parliament, Mr Barnier expressed his “solidarity” with the UK over the “serious events unfolding in London”.
Mr Barnier, while endorsing UK Prime Minister Theresa May’s call for a “bold and ambitious free-trade agreement”, insisted that ambition must also maintain “a level playing field” on tax, labour law and consumer rights.
“The sooner we agree on the principles of an orderly withdrawal, the sooner we can start preparing this future relationship,” he said. “On the other hand if we do not address these uncertainties and put off difficult subjects to the end of the negotiations, we will be heading for failure.”
Mr Barnier did not completely rule out the possibility of agreeing a free-trade deal in time for Britain’s exit – one of London’s key demands. However, he said the new partnership would “take time” and that transition arrangements may be necessary.
Brushing aside one of Mrs May’s red lines over the future role of European judges, Mr Barnier explicitly stated the EU’s demand that interim measures “will be within the framework of European law” and the European Court of Justice. Such a transition could not allow Britain to pick and chose access to areas of the single market.
In one of the most provocative parts of his address, Mr Barnier tackled head-on Mrs May’s assertion that “no deal is better than a bad deal”, setting out a bleak vision of the “serious consequences” from leaving without agreement.
“More than 4m British citizens in the EU and European citizens in the UK faced with complete uncertainty about their rights and their future; the reintroduction of binding customs controls, which will inevitably slow down trade and lead to queues of trucks at Dover; serious disruption to air traffic; an overnight suspension in the movement of nuclear materials to the UK,” he said.
“A no-deal scenario is not our goal. We want an agreement. We want to succeed.
Although Mr Barnier was uncompromising on the need for Britain to “settle its accounts”, he avoided putting a figure on any exit payment, or explaining in more detail what principles for a withdrawal would need to be agreed.
“When a country leaves the Union, there is no punishment,” Mr Barnier said. “There is no price to pay to leave. But we must settle the accounts. We will not ask the British to pay a single euro for something they have not agreed to as a member.”
The European Commission is also keen to show it will be constructive and ambitious in its handling of trade talks, once the basics of a divorce are worked out.
“We agree with Theresa May in her call for a ‘bold and ambitious free-trade agreement’. Yes to ambition!” Mr Barnier said.
But in a sign of the how difficult trade talks may become, he added: “This ambition will also apply to social welfare, tax, environmental and consumer protection standards to which our citizens are rightly attached.”
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:31 - Mar 27 with 2344 views | Darth_Koont |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:18 - Mar 27 by pistonbroke |
Please explain with actual facts , not guesses why we will be worse off and suffer |
Because we're taking ourselves out of our major trading agreement and won't get back those terms.
You can't simply replace that trading partnership with other markets across the world because the key is proximity - and in any case there's zero indication we could get a better deal with those overseas markets than the EU with its far superior weight in negotiations.
Added to which we're a services-based economy that relies on access to the single market to operate and operate profitably. Our financial services look in a risky position and even May stated that remaining in the single market was an imperative for that sector. If we want to keep the passporting then we'll have to give up something else but hey let's just add that to the 1.7 trillion debt and pretend everything is fine.
If you can show me your workings why we'll be the same or better off after we've paid the cost of restructuring our trade then be my guest. | |
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| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:31 - Mar 27 with 2339 views | pistonbroke |
| "My goal is to build a more united UK" on 20:23 - Mar 27 by blueislander |
We will have to make new trade agreements with the EU on the back of at least two years of acromony. How is that for starters? |
But you have no actual facts that they will be worse , we ain't left yet so how the he ll can you have facts , however I have some facts , before we went into the eec then the eu , unemployment was lower , we used to trade in imports and exports successfully , classroom sizes were smaller , it was a lot easier to get a doctors appointment the same day , hospital waiting lists were shorter , manufacturing was higher , the social housing waiting list was a lot smaller ,another fact is these points were getting worse and worse year by year whilst in the eu , oh another fact , the banking collapse and the awful recession of a few years ago were while we were in the eu , why the hell would anyone with any sense vote to stay in it? | | | |
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