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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 07:55 - Nov 8 with 6814 views | Guthrum |
It's a particularly tricky area for those countries who both fought in the Empire's wars and, at the same time, conducted independence struggles. WW2 veterans in India had similar problems, receiving less respect in official quarters than those who had fought alongside the Japanese and Nazis with Chandra Bose's "Indian National Army".
All of the Irish men who fought in the First World War were volunteers, conscription was never introduced in the island. |  |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 07:55 - Nov 8 by Guthrum |
It's a particularly tricky area for those countries who both fought in the Empire's wars and, at the same time, conducted independence struggles. WW2 veterans in India had similar problems, receiving less respect in official quarters than those who had fought alongside the Japanese and Nazis with Chandra Bose's "Indian National Army".
All of the Irish men who fought in the First World War were volunteers, conscription was never introduced in the island. |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:41 - Nov 8 with 6779 views | factual_blue |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:43 - Nov 8 with 6769 views | Radlett_blue |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 07:55 - Nov 8 by Guthrum |
It's a particularly tricky area for those countries who both fought in the Empire's wars and, at the same time, conducted independence struggles. WW2 veterans in India had similar problems, receiving less respect in official quarters than those who had fought alongside the Japanese and Nazis with Chandra Bose's "Indian National Army".
All of the Irish men who fought in the First World War were volunteers, conscription was never introduced in the island. |
Why should it be "tricky"?
Surely, wearing a poppy, for whatever reason, should be an individual's choice?
That's why I find the TV companies' policy of apparently ensuring that every presenter & every guest has to wear one when being interviewed. |  |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:44 - Nov 8 with 6768 views | Guthrum |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:41 - Nov 8 by factual_blue |
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The crop maze is quite tasteful. The hat I'm not so sure about ... | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:51 - Nov 8 with 6752 views | connorscontract |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:44 - Nov 8 by Guthrum |
The crop maze is quite tasteful. The hat I'm not so sure about ... |
Tasteful apart from the Skylark branding? | | | |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:54 - Nov 8 with 6750 views | Guthrum |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:43 - Nov 8 by Radlett_blue |
Why should it be "tricky"?
Surely, wearing a poppy, for whatever reason, should be an individual's choice?
That's why I find the TV companies' policy of apparently ensuring that every presenter & every guest has to wear one when being interviewed. |
The wider aspect of public officials commemorating citizens who fought - and died - for a power against which their own political forbears were struggling for independence. Of recognising those who willingly joined up in a cause which is often now perceived as being against their national interest.
Elements of the Irish independence movement actually allied themselves with (even receiving weapons and other aid from) the Germans during wartime. See Roger Casement and the Aud. | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:55 - Nov 8 with 6744 views | blue_oyster |
A good reminder of the patriotic men who fought for their country against Germany, and also that others chose to split that country, after trying to collude with the Germans. |  |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:57 - Nov 8 with 6728 views | Guthrum |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:51 - Nov 8 by connorscontract |
Tasteful apart from the Skylark branding? |
That's fair enough, IMO, being the name of the place where the maze is. | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:00 - Nov 8 with 6712 views | factual_blue |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:44 - Nov 8 by Guthrum |
The crop maze is quite tasteful. The hat I'm not so sure about ... |
You have a point. I won't wear it this year. | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:12 - Nov 8 with 6683 views | Guthrum |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:55 - Nov 8 by blue_oyster |
A good reminder of the patriotic men who fought for their country against Germany, and also that others chose to split that country, after trying to collude with the Germans. |
A good reminder that patriotism is a very personal and subjective thing. For an Irish patriot at the time, who was the real enemy? | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:28 - Nov 8 with 6643 views | Radlett_blue |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 08:54 - Nov 8 by Guthrum |
The wider aspect of public officials commemorating citizens who fought - and died - for a power against which their own political forbears were struggling for independence. Of recognising those who willingly joined up in a cause which is often now perceived as being against their national interest.
Elements of the Irish independence movement actually allied themselves with (even receiving weapons and other aid from) the Germans during wartime. See Roger Casement and the Aud. |
Fair enough - not hard to see how it's awkward for Irish politicians. | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:54 - Nov 8 with 6597 views | Blue_Order |
See him blasting out his IRA tunes in West Brom's gym the other week? |  | | |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:56 - Nov 8 with 6592 views | soupytwist |
This genuinely seems odd - https://order-order.com/2017/11/07/quentin-lets-bbc-take-poppy/
No one on the show was wearing a poppy. I wonder what the reason is? Could it be to remove any indication of the time of year it was filmed and therefore make it easier to repeat at any time of year on Dave? |  | | |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:58 - Nov 8 with 6586 views | WD19 |
We shouldn't let any debate about poppies once a year obscure the wider point that James McClean is a prize bell all year round. |  | | |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:54 - Nov 8 by Blue_Order |
See him blasting out his IRA tunes in West Brom's gym the other week? |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:58 - Nov 8 by WD19 |
We shouldn't let any debate about poppies once a year obscure the wider point that James McClean is a prize bell all year round. |
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 10:04 - Nov 8 with 6562 views | BlueLikeJazz |
To be honest I'm less bothered by that than the fact that Quentin Letts is a thundering c*ckbadger of truly epic proportions.... | | | |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 10:04 - Nov 8 with 6564 views | BlueBadger |
Or, you know possibly because the British Legion's official campaign didn't launch until the next day and the Beeb had been asked or didn't want to tread on any toes. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 10:13]
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| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 10:15 - Nov 8 with 6526 views | soupytwist |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 10:04 - Nov 8 by BlueBadger |
Or, you know possibly because the British Legion's official campaign didn't launch until the next day and the Beeb had been asked or didn't want to tread on any toes. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 10:13]
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I don't think that's the reason since people on other BBC shows had been wearing them for about a week.
I think that the BBC doesn't help itself sometimes. If there is a reason, tell it. If there isn't let him wear it. | | | |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 10:16 - Nov 8 with 6524 views | blue_oyster |
| Poppy watch, the mood is tense... on 09:12 - Nov 8 by Guthrum |
A good reminder that patriotism is a very personal and subjective thing. For an Irish patriot at the time, who was the real enemy? |
Hmmm, Britain or Germany in WW1. Tough choice, eh? | |
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