| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary 12:59 - May 4 with 2836 views | tractordownsouth |
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| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary on 14:23 - May 5 with 191 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary on 14:14 - May 5 by itfcjoe |
The Labour party has been brought down, by those who the put the report together then leaked it to all and sundry.
It now has to repair it's reputation from here, to make itself electable again. It will need to look at the report as part of that, but anyone who thinks the report is some sort of golden bullet is going to be left frustrated |
Anyone who doesn't even address the report is wasting everybody's time not just their own. |  |
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| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary on 14:28 - May 5 with 174 views | giant_stow |
| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary on 14:13 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
So you ignored the shadow cabinets I see.
The manifestos were largely decided by the members. Brexit is where Corbyn and others seemed to buck the trend but that was clearly a major error. Trying to assuage Brexit voters and compromise became ultimately pointless.
JLM and Tom Watson are all over this mate and it's not good. So I don't think you want to be taking their side.
As I said, address the report and then you can perhaps make a relevant point. |
If you think the shadow cabinets are revealing, spell out why. I'm not inclined to look at that level of detail when the overall picture is so clear: a left-wing labour going out of it's way to leave the middle ground. The exact opposite of 'braod church'.
I'll have a skim of your craig whatshisname link later - in fairness to you, I've been meaning to for a while. |  |
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| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary on 14:40 - May 5 with 170 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jennie Formby has left as Labour General Secretary on 14:28 - May 5 by giant_stow |
If you think the shadow cabinets are revealing, spell out why. I'm not inclined to look at that level of detail when the overall picture is so clear: a left-wing labour going out of it's way to leave the middle ground. The exact opposite of 'braod church'.
I'll have a skim of your craig whatshisname link later - in fairness to you, I've been meaning to for a while. |
Well, clearly he didn't marginalise the right-wing of the party as most of his subsequent biggest critics are in these first shadow cabinets. But it's also clear from the resignations and leadership coups (and the stuff we now know was going on behind the scenes) that the PLP and Labour HQ never accepted the broad church of having a leader voted in by the members.
Re: leaving the middle ground they were promoting individual policies a majority of the electorate agreed with - and none of it is radical, it's bog-standard European social democracy. So opponents of Corbyn have actually stood for a very narrow church of their own interests and a rejection of a fair number of socialist and social democratic values.
And don't have a skim. Read it and think about it. Then perhaps your perverse overall picture wouldn't be so clear to you. | |
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