| Brexit 10:36 - Dec 16 with 4800 views | clive_baker |
Hopefully over the coming days and weeks the political posturing subsides and makes way for a softer Brexit, whereby a free trade agreement remains with the EU, rather than reverting to WTO terms, and our ability to diverge is moderated to some degree or pegged to EU terms, which they're seemingly insistent on.
Once the dust settles on Brexit and it becomes chip paper, how likely do we think it is that a party will take a strong re-join position? And will there be appetite for it? As a remainer myself, we lost, and I'm over it. I'm not sure I've got the mental horsepower for years more of Brexit dominating the media and causing further division in this country. A referendum on re-joining followed by 4.5 years of arguing about that feels like a toxic recipe for disaster. I do believe the social, sentimental, economic and logistical practicalities and pain will continue to be felt for some time though.
However, how likely do we think it is that it can & will finally be put to bed as a political issue? |  |
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| Brexit on 10:15 - Dec 17 with 338 views | Moriarty |
| Brexit on 00:28 - Dec 17 by jeera |
Unsurprisingly it's not easy for our Irish friends to fondly recite too much of anything English.
I do understand this and my only complaint to my own friends who are Irish is that I wish they would maybe differentiate a bit more between the English [us/me] and our government past and present.
I have had Indian people accuse me of colonising them which disappointed me because it's the sort of argument I would normally take their side over anyway, without anyone trying to blame me personally! [Post edited 17 Dec 2020 0:31]
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It’s a very good point you make.
I mentioned above the integrity of Jonathan Jones. Indeed the Lords also rejected BJ’s disregard for international law. There is certainly some honour in British politics.
Many Irish have good connections and friends in Britain and vice verses and long may that continue. |  |
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| Brexit on 10:33 - Dec 17 with 305 views | Churchman |
| Brexit on 10:15 - Dec 17 by Moriarty |
It’s a very good point you make.
I mentioned above the integrity of Jonathan Jones. Indeed the Lords also rejected BJ’s disregard for international law. There is certainly some honour in British politics.
Many Irish have good connections and friends in Britain and vice verses and long may that continue. |
I think of it as evolving checks and balances. In that I mean that if you look at Trump, the damage he could do was limited by the American constitution which has checks and balances built in. In trying to overturn the Presidential result, he stood no chance and only proved once again what a stupid man he is. When I see berks like Johnson meddling with the constitution for their own ends rather than evolving it to meet 21st century need I get worried and it’s good to see people standing up to it. |  | | |
| Brexit on 12:20 - Dec 17 with 280 views | Moriarty |
| Brexit on 10:02 - Dec 17 by Pinewoodblue |
Think Varadkar was referring to the birth of Ireland as a nation, can’t really regard Ireland as being warlike. |
Athena used her wisdom to support Hercules. BJ is stated to have a good knowledge of classics. | |
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| Brexit on 12:28 - Dec 17 with 269 views | Moriarty |
| Brexit on 10:33 - Dec 17 by Churchman |
I think of it as evolving checks and balances. In that I mean that if you look at Trump, the damage he could do was limited by the American constitution which has checks and balances built in. In trying to overturn the Presidential result, he stood no chance and only proved once again what a stupid man he is. When I see berks like Johnson meddling with the constitution for their own ends rather than evolving it to meet 21st century need I get worried and it’s good to see people standing up to it. |
What happens with Britain post Brexit is an unknown.
Scotland and Northern Ireland may or may not be part of the Union in years to come. Which is why trust and goodwill are so important.
Of the few snippets I’ve heard, there seems to be a genuine concern that Britain isn’t anywhere near ready for January 1st.
One hopes BJ isn’t referring to “teething problems” too much before Spring. | |
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