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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% 15:16 - Jul 5 with 1346 viewshype313

According to stats coming out of Israel since the Delta variant arrived.

But the vaccine is still conferring strong protection against severe symptoms of the virus, with hospitalisation rates remaining low.

So a booster for over 50's in September looks paramount.

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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:19 - Jul 5 with 1303 viewsStokieBlue

It seems there is going to be a need for a booster to counter the changes in the spike protein although that once again delays vaccinating the rest of the world as the wealthy nations are going to insist on getting the booster first.

The Lambda variant is also looking like a concern (first spotted in Peru) and could bring the efficacy down even further than the Delta.

It's excellent that hospitalisations are remaining low. Looks like it's dropped from 98% to 93% for hospitalisations and severe infection. We don't want a few more drops like that though.

SB
[Post edited 5 Jul 15:21]

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:22 - Jul 5 with 1276 viewsbluelagos

Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:19 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue

It seems there is going to be a need for a booster to counter the changes in the spike protein although that once again delays vaccinating the rest of the world as the wealthy nations are going to insist on getting the booster first.

The Lambda variant is also looking like a concern (first spotted in Peru) and could bring the efficacy down even further than the Delta.

It's excellent that hospitalisations are remaining low. Looks like it's dropped from 98% to 93% for hospitalisations and severe infection. We don't want a few more drops like that though.

SB
[Post edited 5 Jul 15:21]


You've mentioned the Lambda variant a couple of times Stokie. Got any links / "idiots guide" to what it is about?

Cheers

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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:26 - Jul 5 with 1231 viewshype313

Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:22 - Jul 5 by bluelagos

You've mentioned the Lambda variant a couple of times Stokie. Got any links / "idiots guide" to what it is about?

Cheers


https://www.ft.com/content/b3ea5177-9312-418b-acb7-af16a3bdcd22

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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:26 - Jul 5 with 1232 viewsStokieBlue

Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:22 - Jul 5 by bluelagos

You've mentioned the Lambda variant a couple of times Stokie. Got any links / "idiots guide" to what it is about?

Cheers


First spotted in Peru the tail end of last year and it seems to be outcompeting the delta variant which would indicate it's more transmissible than the delta variant. It's got some weird mutations apparently:

https://www.cityam.com/six-uk-cases-fast-spreading-lambda-variant-puzzles-covid-

To be honest there doesn't seem to be that much stuff about it at the moment - I think the scientists simply don't know much yet.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:28 - Jul 5 with 1202 viewsbluelagos

Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 15:26 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue

First spotted in Peru the tail end of last year and it seems to be outcompeting the delta variant which would indicate it's more transmissible than the delta variant. It's got some weird mutations apparently:

https://www.cityam.com/six-uk-cases-fast-spreading-lambda-variant-puzzles-covid-

To be honest there doesn't seem to be that much stuff about it at the moment - I think the scientists simply don't know much yet.

SB


Uppie is for you reply - not the fact that there is a new variant :-(

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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 16:00 - Jul 5 with 1070 viewsvictorywilhappen

Israel was chosen over Estonia as it was more genetically diverse and was a testing ground based on this by the drug company to do a massive roll out.
Estonia also was not organised enough to facilitate the experiment also.


There is also suggestion that blood type as well as genes could play a part is how the body reacts.

As with the flu a vaccination it is not 100per cent but it will cut down the chances of this virus killing you or doing serious harm .

There are so many factors at play. Get vaccinated, don't smoke, don't go in unventilated spaces with crowds, get Vit D, stay fit, eat well the rest is a lottery and genetics. No doubt the vaccines will be tweaked yearly like the flu jab to try and beat variations.
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Pfizer efficacy gone from 94% to 64% on 18:52 - Jul 5 with 759 viewsKeno

Unlike Pfizer drugs to course a drop off like that

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