Ashamed 19:04 - Jan 15 with 4477 views | trueblues78 | Ashamed of the town fan who refused to sit down during the todays warm up when asked politely by an elderly couple behind him. They just wanted to see the shooting practice. What a tw@t. I hope karma gets you. |  |
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Ashamed on 22:17 - Jan 16 with 604 views | bluelagos |
Ashamed on 22:10 - Jan 16 by SuperCoops | I can see both sides. But as I pointed out, the elderly/unable to stand for long periods/short people are as entitled to follow the club home and away, as much as the vocal element who seem to think they're more important and relevant - particularly away from home. It's not as straight forward as that and both sides need to have some consideration. Why do the vocal bods need to sit high and central to the away support? You could argue why don't they move to a side closest to home fans to create extra noise/atmosphere? |
Got no issues with splitting the fans sideways rather than front/back. The point is, at present some elderly fans are not going as they cant see/dont like standing. So would be good if a solution was found that works for everyone. And those saying everyone should sit down are not proposing a realisitic position. |  |
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Ashamed on 22:20 - Jan 16 with 605 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Ashamed on 22:14 - Jan 16 by SuperCoops | Strictly speaking, you shouldn't be standing at an all seater stadium anyway. But I've sat plenty of times away in my years following Town since the 80s. I can see your reasoning, but it doesn't give the vocal mob the entitlement or privilege against other supporters etc. They've paid their money as much as you, and as my previous post said, you could argue they've put more money into the club by having season tickets in the more expensive stands at home games etc. |
Away matches are probably a bit trickier, especially where there is a free-for-all on seats. Home matches, fans generally know which areas of the ground are going to be standing most of the match - it would be silly for someone unable to do so to get a ticket in Sir Bobby Lower for example. However, those things aside, it doesn't take a lot to consider others. Maybe help to ensure said fans get a seat in the front row at an away match. Maybe, during the warm up, sit down when asked to do so or move to a different seat. It isn't always perfect but sometimes a little more thought for others could go a long way. |  |
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Ashamed on 22:25 - Jan 16 with 593 views | SuperCoops |
Ashamed on 22:20 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue | Away matches are probably a bit trickier, especially where there is a free-for-all on seats. Home matches, fans generally know which areas of the ground are going to be standing most of the match - it would be silly for someone unable to do so to get a ticket in Sir Bobby Lower for example. However, those things aside, it doesn't take a lot to consider others. Maybe help to ensure said fans get a seat in the front row at an away match. Maybe, during the warm up, sit down when asked to do so or move to a different seat. It isn't always perfect but sometimes a little more thought for others could go a long way. |
Agreed, I appreciate away games are a bit tricky now - perhaps more these days than in the past. But consideration for all by everyone is needed. If someone gave my Grandparents a gobful because they couldn't see, I wouldn't be happy. And I'm sure you'd be the same if someone did that to your family etc. Just sounds like there seems to be a lack of respect and decency all round. |  | |  |
Ashamed on 22:27 - Jan 16 with 590 views | jeera |
Ashamed on 22:14 - Jan 16 by SuperCoops | Strictly speaking, you shouldn't be standing at an all seater stadium anyway. But I've sat plenty of times away in my years following Town since the 80s. I can see your reasoning, but it doesn't give the vocal mob the entitlement or privilege against other supporters etc. They've paid their money as much as you, and as my previous post said, you could argue they've put more money into the club by having season tickets in the more expensive stands at home games etc. |
But no one is disputing the ethics, just the reality. Getting everyone at an away game to sit down is not going to happen. Discussion is the answer though of course with different ideas thrown into the mix to be either considered or dismissed out of hand. Regardless of how well-intended. I jest. If any potential solutions sound feasible then the club[s] should know about it. Town can hardly be alone with having fans wondering how this could be improved for everyone. |  |
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Ashamed on 22:30 - Jan 16 with 577 views | strikalite |
Ashamed on 17:01 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue | It's just about whether you care about others or only yourself really. My Dad was quite short. If someone stood up in front of him, he couldn't see much which meant he often missed key bits of action when he went. In the end he was unable to speak too. He went to a match at PR and someone else was sat in his seat. They refused to move and he couldn't explain the situation so he sat somewhere else. Another fan whose seat it was came along and so he had to move and this happened a couple of times at that match. He did write to the club and they gave him a free ticket for another match but the experience really upset him. Sometimes doing a simple thing for the benefit of someone else is just the right thing to do. The one who wanted to stand could have moved. There may be a reason why the others would have found it difficult to. Alternatively, one can think they are the only one that matters but don't complain when the attendance is very low if that is your attitude. |
I appreciate that must have been difficult for your Dad, I was in all honesty talking about the situation in pretty much every ground where the majority of fans are standing, if it's just one fan stood up then of course that's different.....if a couple for example wanted to sit in section six of the North then it's a whole different situation again.. |  | |  |
Ashamed on 10:53 - Jan 17 with 451 views | Radlett_blue |
Ashamed on 22:30 - Jan 16 by strikalite | I appreciate that must have been difficult for your Dad, I was in all honesty talking about the situation in pretty much every ground where the majority of fans are standing, if it's just one fan stood up then of course that's different.....if a couple for example wanted to sit in section six of the North then it's a whole different situation again.. |
Persistent standing in seated areas has been an issue ever since the introduction of all seater stadiums. It's less of a problem at Portman Road as I agree that if you want to watch the game from your seat, don't go to the lower North Stand. Away games have always been an issue as they attract the more passionate fans & the seating is often random. I took my children, then aged 10 & 8, to Watford away umpteen years ago & they resorted to standing on their seats as otherwise they wouldn't have been able to see a thing. |  |
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Ashamed on 11:18 - Jan 17 with 430 views | SitfcB |
Ashamed on 22:20 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue | Away matches are probably a bit trickier, especially where there is a free-for-all on seats. Home matches, fans generally know which areas of the ground are going to be standing most of the match - it would be silly for someone unable to do so to get a ticket in Sir Bobby Lower for example. However, those things aside, it doesn't take a lot to consider others. Maybe help to ensure said fans get a seat in the front row at an away match. Maybe, during the warm up, sit down when asked to do so or move to a different seat. It isn't always perfect but sometimes a little more thought for others could go a long way. |
The club set aside a special block at away games for those with mobility issues/want to sit etc. |  |
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Ashamed on 11:21 - Jan 17 with 427 views | Radlett_blue |
Ashamed on 11:18 - Jan 17 by SitfcB | The club set aside a special block at away games for those with mobility issues/want to sit etc. |
Fair enough. How has this actually worked in practice? I assume they will usually be the worst seats in the house, at worm's eye level. |  |
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Ashamed on 11:45 - Jan 17 with 415 views | SitfcB |
Ashamed on 11:21 - Jan 17 by Radlett_blue | Fair enough. How has this actually worked in practice? I assume they will usually be the worst seats in the house, at worm's eye level. |
‘For this fixture we will be operating a ‘Safe Seating Area’ which we will confirm the location of once we're in receipt of tickets from AFC Wimbledon. We would like to remind fans that the seating areas will include older fans, families, those unable to stand for long periods of time and ambulant disabled fans. We therefore require fans in the seated areas to stay seated and be respectful of their fellow supporters as we want everyone to enjoy the day safely. To purchase a 'Safe Seating' seat please call the ticket office on 03330 05 05 03’. They have something like this at the end of every article mentioning tickets, I wouldn’t say worst view, all depends on what ground it is though. |  |
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