| A very important favour please TWTD 22:27 - Oct 28 with 3758 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Sign this petition if you could. Will take 2 minutes.
In short, the Citizens Advice Bureau have been told they’re likely having all funding stopped. This £100k+ hit would effectively force it to close. It’s the only thing in Romford that even resembles help for local people in times of need. A girl I work with just last week needed help and contacted them.
Whether it be sorting out food vouchers, helping with domestic disputes, or something as simple as helping someone know what they are entitled to by law with benefits or maternity leave for example, Romford would really feel the impact if it is closed down simply to save money. The people of Romford deserve better and the people of Romford cannot have their last ally in a time of need be shut down.
Please sign. You’ll probably have to confirm on your email the signature for it to go through. Thankyou,
https://t.co/jiTAAbA3Tz [Post edited 28 Oct 2022 22:27]
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| A very important favour please TWTD on 11:23 - Oct 29 with 612 views | Guthrum |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 08:39 - Oct 29 by DJR |
But it wasn't down to share of the vote. The Lib Dems could have gone into coalition with Labour because there was a hung Parliament. But they chose not to partly because they thought Labour were discredited, partly because they felt they had to go into coalition with the largest party and partly because those Orange Bookers were as hooked on austerity as much as the Tories were. Proportional representation would have made no difference to these calculations. [Post edited 29 Oct 2022 8:44]
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Lab + Lib (315) v Con + DUP (314) - one seat in it. Far too slim a majority for a functional government, even had they been able to come to an agreement. A rapid second GE (as per 1974) would likely have led to further losses for Labour and quite probably the LibDems also - blamed for propping up Brown, rather than for letting Cameron in.
PR would have made a huge difference. In that scenario, the LibDems would have had around 150 MPs to the Conservatives' 235 and Labour's 189, thus giving them vastly more weight in either possible coalition (claiming more than five not very senior Cabinet posts for a start). |  |
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| A very important favour please TWTD on 11:37 - Oct 29 with 588 views | DJR |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 11:23 - Oct 29 by Guthrum |
Lab + Lib (315) v Con + DUP (314) - one seat in it. Far too slim a majority for a functional government, even had they been able to come to an agreement. A rapid second GE (as per 1974) would likely have led to further losses for Labour and quite probably the LibDems also - blamed for propping up Brown, rather than for letting Cameron in.
PR would have made a huge difference. In that scenario, the LibDems would have had around 150 MPs to the Conservatives' 235 and Labour's 189, thus giving them vastly more weight in either possible coalition (claiming more than five not very senior Cabinet posts for a start). |
I don't believe PR would have made any difference at all. The Lib Dems would have faced huge criticism if they had run with Labour, and if anything, their Orange Bookers, who took up Cabinet posts, were even keener on austerity than the Tories. Don't you remember that garden press conference that Clegg and Cameron had where Clegg intimated there was nothing they disagreed on? [Post edited 29 Oct 2022 11:37]
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| A very important favour please TWTD on 13:54 - Oct 29 with 551 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Thanks to everyone so far whos signed. Very much appreciated
Couldn’t believe my ears when I heard they were trying to shut it. To then change that to ‘just removing all funding’ as to do it unnofficially and receive less backlash was just even more sickening. | |
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| A very important favour please TWTD on 00:21 - Nov 2 with 473 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Little bump for this.
Reminder that the signature only counts if you confirm it on your email once signed | |
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| A very important favour please TWTD on 08:58 - Nov 2 with 411 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 00:21 - Nov 2 by The_Romford_Blue |
Little bump for this.
Reminder that the signature only counts if you confirm it on your email once signed |
Signed thanks for the bump - hadn’t seen this.
Did some volunteering for them in the past, they are a great help to many people. |  | | |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 10:52 - Nov 2 with 390 views | HARRY10 |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 09:01 - Oct 29 by bluelagos |
No, don't think the Lab/Libs/SNP had enough for a working majority.
Accept the Libs didn't have to go with the Tories, a simple vote on each policy would arguably have left them with influence without signing upto austerity.
But the wiff of power was strong and the rest is history.
Not sure why you dismiss the PR. The numbers would have been there. Not defending their actions, they had a choice and took it, much to their shame. |
What is being dismissed is your misleading claim about PR re the 2010 election, as it highlights the ignorance of PR. Something that government so glaringly exposed.
PR is NOT a government of 'all the talents'. It is one where the senior partner wins all the votes, and the junior tags along. A greater danger as it suggests to voters that it is OK as some others (neutered) are sat round the table.
Underpinning this latest bleat is the false assumption that you can add all the non Tory vote and then have a coalition, who will all agree.... and maybe sit round a camp fire singing 'Kum beya m'lord'.
Which is absolute old bollox, and that is an understatement, as there are plenty of Libdems who side with the Tories and SNP who are bitterly opposed to Labour. Then there are the parties themselves who for 'tactical' reasons will not work with others lest there are seen as a viable alternative.
Then comes one of the massive anti democratic parts of PR. usually all contestants in a GE have a working knowledge of their constituency, and voters with the various candidates. With PR that level of local accountability is removed. You are given the MP head office decides upon. After the vote.
If it is as 2010 then however you voted goes out of the window as who forms the next government is decided by around a half dozen persons behind closed doors.
It's time this PR stuff was fully explained, ir dropped like the once held belief that smoking is safe. | | | |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 13:39 - Nov 2 with 369 views | bluelagos |
| A very important favour please TWTD on 10:52 - Nov 2 by HARRY10 |
What is being dismissed is your misleading claim about PR re the 2010 election, as it highlights the ignorance of PR. Something that government so glaringly exposed.
PR is NOT a government of 'all the talents'. It is one where the senior partner wins all the votes, and the junior tags along. A greater danger as it suggests to voters that it is OK as some others (neutered) are sat round the table.
Underpinning this latest bleat is the false assumption that you can add all the non Tory vote and then have a coalition, who will all agree.... and maybe sit round a camp fire singing 'Kum beya m'lord'.
Which is absolute old bollox, and that is an understatement, as there are plenty of Libdems who side with the Tories and SNP who are bitterly opposed to Labour. Then there are the parties themselves who for 'tactical' reasons will not work with others lest there are seen as a viable alternative.
Then comes one of the massive anti democratic parts of PR. usually all contestants in a GE have a working knowledge of their constituency, and voters with the various candidates. With PR that level of local accountability is removed. You are given the MP head office decides upon. After the vote.
If it is as 2010 then however you voted goes out of the window as who forms the next government is decided by around a half dozen persons behind closed doors.
It's time this PR stuff was fully explained, ir dropped like the once held belief that smoking is safe. |
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