| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 14:22 - Mar 28 with 875 views | bluelagos |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 11:21 - Mar 28 by FarmerBlue95 |
Not sure where to begin on the utter rubbish spouted here.
A lot of cats that are poisoned will limp their way home, even if it is to die. Unless you’re arguing with the established veterinary knowledge? The poisons available nowadays are not strong enough to kill where the animal eats it. On the farm we never see mice or rats dead by the bait boxes, rather they more often than not they go back to their nests.
I have personally never been to a shoot where any birds, never mind a lot, are simply thrown away. At the very least they would go to a butcher or similar. If your only argument is to use the examples of the ridiculous big shoots then I agree with you on that, but it’s not representative of the vast majority.
I’ll say again, it’s all okay to call hunters or shooters ‘sick’ for killing an animal
To eat in a wild environment, yet a vast majority will eat meat where they’re not always sure of its origin/ how it’s been kept. Likewise even on this site we see pinned posts about Cheltenham etc when the issues in the horse racing world have been proven before, never mind greyhound racing. (That isn’t an attack on the sports but it’s interesting which is the one heralded as ‘sick’
You’re determined to paint all shoots the same as the big industrial ones, but you fail to realise cost doesn’t = number of birds. Sometimes the (vastly ott) prices are because it’s in high demand due to the skill involved etc, rather than sheer number of wasted birds.
I am not posh or rich, in fact I know as many, if not more, people who shoot or work in the shooting industry who are working class as opposed to being ‘toad of toad hall’, yet of course it helps demonise an industry if a certain type of person is stereotyped instead.
Perhaps I should never have attempted to inform and explain to people who won’t or don’t ever hope to understand the realities? We’ve seen with Clarkson’s Farm it takes a celebrity to showcase the reality of what farming life can be like, never mind trying to explain a nuanced subject like this on a football forum [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 11:25]
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When I was about 6 used to spot butterflies. Had a book and would tick them off, one by one.
My Dad then bought me a net and I caught my first butterfly, carefully placing him in a jar, making sure he had fresh air I took him to my Dad who explained we could mount him on a board, would need some pins.
I was six, and asked why would I want to kill a butterfly given I liked them. I let him and go and that was that.
Anyone who kills animals for fun is a bit of a cnt to be honest. And anyone who makes money from helping them do it is little better in my eyes.
Birds, foxes, stags, elephants, fish, butterflies, whatever.
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| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 14:44 - Mar 28 with 832 views | FarmerBlue95 |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 14:22 - Mar 28 by bluelagos |
When I was about 6 used to spot butterflies. Had a book and would tick them off, one by one.
My Dad then bought me a net and I caught my first butterfly, carefully placing him in a jar, making sure he had fresh air I took him to my Dad who explained we could mount him on a board, would need some pins.
I was six, and asked why would I want to kill a butterfly given I liked them. I let him and go and that was that.
Anyone who kills animals for fun is a bit of a cnt to be honest. And anyone who makes money from helping them do it is little better in my eyes.
Birds, foxes, stags, elephants, fish, butterflies, whatever.
The noise around it doesn't change that central point. |
But in this instance, shooting birds (or trapping and eating rabbits for example) to eat is actually
Much more natural for them than any farmed animal who’s end of life comes via abbatoir
Can’t really compare to trophy hunting etc-as someone who’s been on Safari I can’t imagine ever choosing to shoot a big game animal |  | | |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 16:51 - Mar 28 with 792 views | Buhrer |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 14:44 - Mar 28 by FarmerBlue95 |
But in this instance, shooting birds (or trapping and eating rabbits for example) to eat is actually
Much more natural for them than any farmed animal who’s end of life comes via abbatoir
Can’t really compare to trophy hunting etc-as someone who’s been on Safari I can’t imagine ever choosing to shoot a big game animal |
Is shooting pheasants a sensible way to raise and harvest them for food, or is it basically just British trophy hunting, ie shooting animals for status and fun? |  | | |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 18:29 - Mar 28 with 761 views | HARRY10 |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 14:44 - Mar 28 by FarmerBlue95 |
But in this instance, shooting birds (or trapping and eating rabbits for example) to eat is actually
Much more natural for them than any farmed animal who’s end of life comes via abbatoir
Can’t really compare to trophy hunting etc-as someone who’s been on Safari I can’t imagine ever choosing to shoot a big game animal |
You must be really thick if you imagine folk belief your old tosh.
Who still traps rabbits to eat in the UK ?
Have you any idea how little meat is on a pheasant, and the amount of works needed in plucking and dressing the bird ?
It is natural for a pheasant to be shot ? A much enjoyed pastime in Merrie Olde England. All part of traditional country sports - though only carried out by a handful of sickos, hear and there.
But as they are not 'big game' it is OK, it would seem. Though pound for pound the destruction of wild life in the UK well outweighs trophy killing in Africa. | | | |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 21:11 - Mar 28 with 734 views | FarmerBlue95 |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 18:29 - Mar 28 by HARRY10 |
You must be really thick if you imagine folk belief your old tosh.
Who still traps rabbits to eat in the UK ?
Have you any idea how little meat is on a pheasant, and the amount of works needed in plucking and dressing the bird ?
It is natural for a pheasant to be shot ? A much enjoyed pastime in Merrie Olde England. All part of traditional country sports - though only carried out by a handful of sickos, hear and there.
But as they are not 'big game' it is OK, it would seem. Though pound for pound the destruction of wild life in the UK well outweighs trophy killing in Africa. |
Just stick to your comfortable towny life if you’re really going to spout such rubbish as ‘no one eats rabbit’ anymore or question if I know about eating and prepping game. FWIW game is actually better for you than other poultry.
The U.K. has incredibly diverse and plentiful wildlife, thanks in no small part to the custodians of the countryside, or ‘sickos’ as you so eloquently put it. Almost every day I could point to the many hares/deer of all sorts/buzzards/golden plovers/skylarks/other birds I see on and around the farm (existing in harmony with a shoot I may add)
Totally understand sensible questions about shooting; but whilst you stick to your processed, imported and therefore often mistreated farmed meat I’ll tuck into my pheasant with food miles of about 1.5 miles like the apparently posh, uninformed person that I am…
PS, subscriptions to things like the shooting times are always increasing and shooting is a pastime that transcends all sorts of boundaries people may think, it’s going nowhere [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 21:13]
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| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 21:39 - Mar 28 with 675 views | Mullet |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 21:11 - Mar 28 by FarmerBlue95 |
Just stick to your comfortable towny life if you’re really going to spout such rubbish as ‘no one eats rabbit’ anymore or question if I know about eating and prepping game. FWIW game is actually better for you than other poultry.
The U.K. has incredibly diverse and plentiful wildlife, thanks in no small part to the custodians of the countryside, or ‘sickos’ as you so eloquently put it. Almost every day I could point to the many hares/deer of all sorts/buzzards/golden plovers/skylarks/other birds I see on and around the farm (existing in harmony with a shoot I may add)
Totally understand sensible questions about shooting; but whilst you stick to your processed, imported and therefore often mistreated farmed meat I’ll tuck into my pheasant with food miles of about 1.5 miles like the apparently posh, uninformed person that I am…
PS, subscriptions to things like the shooting times are always increasing and shooting is a pastime that transcends all sorts of boundaries people may think, it’s going nowhere [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 21:13]
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More game should be eaten and I do think that hunting with guns is totally misunderstood, that's in large part though to fox hunting and birdshoots being associated with the rich. Whilst Harry typically goes so far overboard as to drown any sense he might make, because of past times like those. As well as, lamping, badger baiting etc both historically and when they still happen now, it does no good to dismiss people as ignorant.
There's way more awareness and video evidence of the darker side of country bloodsports which has totally undone the good which can and has been done.
Local venison is wonderful, especially after they've been eating acorns and fattened up a bit before a cull. However, it is isn't sold widely and when my local butcher goes on a hunt and brings back a few birds the cost/profit isn't worth it seemingly.
While this thread has veered away from the senseless killing of raptors, it does seem that more should be done to reintroduce bigger birds of prey, and protect dwindling populations of peregrines etc. Hopefully programmes like Wild Isle will cut through a little in that regard. |  |
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| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 20:44 - Mar 29 with 550 views | HARRY10 |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 21:11 - Mar 28 by FarmerBlue95 |
Just stick to your comfortable towny life if you’re really going to spout such rubbish as ‘no one eats rabbit’ anymore or question if I know about eating and prepping game. FWIW game is actually better for you than other poultry.
The U.K. has incredibly diverse and plentiful wildlife, thanks in no small part to the custodians of the countryside, or ‘sickos’ as you so eloquently put it. Almost every day I could point to the many hares/deer of all sorts/buzzards/golden plovers/skylarks/other birds I see on and around the farm (existing in harmony with a shoot I may add)
Totally understand sensible questions about shooting; but whilst you stick to your processed, imported and therefore often mistreated farmed meat I’ll tuck into my pheasant with food miles of about 1.5 miles like the apparently posh, uninformed person that I am…
PS, subscriptions to things like the shooting times are always increasing and shooting is a pastime that transcends all sorts of boundaries people may think, it’s going nowhere [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 21:13]
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Do the lies and misrepresentation spew out from this blood spirts defender
Firstly the accusation that I am a townie ie I don't know about the sadistic stuff that goes on. Nor does anyone else who doesn't live on a farm. I do, I saw it as a child and have plenty of anecdotal evidence since.
‘no one eats rabbit’ another lie. What I actually said is who traps rabbits nowadays
There is a massive decrease in the wildlife*, not as you lie 'plentiful wild life'
" your processed, imported and therefore often mistreated farmed meat" you've no idea what I eat, just making it up again
" posh, uninformed person that I am…"more invention, I never made any comment on that matter. What I did say "those not dressed up as Toad of Toad Hall are not aware of what happens"
I would suggest that you reply to what I actually post. I have met umpteen of your type over the years. The same stupid bleats spouted out in the belief the rest of us as so stupid as to swallow blatant lies.
I've no doubt in your mind you have the right to slaughter wild animals, ignoring the obvious flaw in that idiocy..... if the rest of the adult population did likewise there would be very little left after a few years.
The wildlife environment your sort wants is one sanitised of anything that cannot be shot.... for fun.
* "The state of nature: 41 percent of UK species have declined since 1970s"
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2019/october/the-state-of-nature-41-percent- [Post edited 29 Mar 2023 20:58]
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| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 21:26 - Mar 29 with 503 views | HARRY10 |
| Someone in Suffolk is a knob on 21:39 - Mar 28 by Mullet |
More game should be eaten and I do think that hunting with guns is totally misunderstood, that's in large part though to fox hunting and birdshoots being associated with the rich. Whilst Harry typically goes so far overboard as to drown any sense he might make, because of past times like those. As well as, lamping, badger baiting etc both historically and when they still happen now, it does no good to dismiss people as ignorant.
There's way more awareness and video evidence of the darker side of country bloodsports which has totally undone the good which can and has been done.
Local venison is wonderful, especially after they've been eating acorns and fattened up a bit before a cull. However, it is isn't sold widely and when my local butcher goes on a hunt and brings back a few birds the cost/profit isn't worth it seemingly.
While this thread has veered away from the senseless killing of raptors, it does seem that more should be done to reintroduce bigger birds of prey, and protect dwindling populations of peregrines etc. Hopefully programmes like Wild Isle will cut through a little in that regard. |
More guff
Pheasants shot are often full of lead pellets, and it would not be commercially viable to process them for sale - hence it not being done..... sadly it is then downhill from there, with a jumble of words
I am not sure what 'good' from slaughtering wild life has been undone. Nor does he, I suspect
Back home the weekend before Xmas I was privileged to hear the conversation of a local bird killing group. My brother being local it was assumed i was a like minded killer. I didn't hear much, but there was a general agreement that 'sh itehawks (birds of prey should be shot on site. And I was left in no doubt they had been.
And because of this my brother said he thought the local keepers had been out lamping a few weeks back. Foxes. He works as a contractor so visits some of the farms. It is not the crap the idiot above talks of ..... cosy urban foxes, horny handed sons of toil taking one for the pot, the rosy cheeked famers wife spending hours plucking and dressing a pheasants to get about as much meat as a hamster
Still we did learn something "goes on a hunt and brings back a few birds the cost/profit isn't worth it seemingly"
Gosh, who knew that, no wonder millions end up in landfill.... and those shooting pheasants go on a 'shoot, not a hunt | | | |
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