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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. 08:28 - Mar 1 with 2644 viewsNthQldITFC

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/28/carbon-emissions-global-suv-

'The vehicles are larger and heavier than regular cars and use on average 20% more fuel. The increased number of SUVs in 2022 were responsible for a third of the increase in global oil demand.

Purchases of SUVs have soared in recent years, rising from 20% of new cars in 2012 to 46% of all cars last year, the IEA reports.'


Yes, governments have to drive and enforce real change if our kids are to have any hope of a decent life, but WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TOO with our purchasing habits and our ego-driven, self-deluding and selfish bullsh!t lifestyles.

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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:37 - Mar 1 with 302 viewsChurchman

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:03 - Mar 1 by BanksterDebtSlave

My first car twtd!


Well you live and learn. I don’t think I ever went in a Fiat 500 and had no idea that’s how you started it. Interesting.

My first car was this bad boy. Same colour. Broke down all the time and oh the rust…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/liamch/3276057981/in/photostream/

It had a manual choke of course but started on the key that was stupidly placed in the middle of the dashboard. Perfectly placed for my mate to take it out and chuck it out of the window at about 40mph down a country road with no streetlights. We found the key - eventually.
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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:47 - Mar 1 with 287 viewsDJR

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 15:19 - Mar 1 by Churchman

Can’t see the point. I’ve got one of those remote key things and have to keep it in a little wallet and in a box in the house to try and stop it being cloned. If I lose it I suspect I’ll have to donate a kidney to replace it. The good ole key in lock was simple and worked. You could also take the lock/mechanism out and replace/repair it if it broke. No longer!

Mind you, back in the last century in the days of Escort Mk1s etc you could get in virtually any car with any key.


The two keys I have for my car are partially broken. One has the key slightly bent, which means I can't put it into my ignition. The other has a key which works in the ignition, but the electrics on it have gone, so I have to put the key in the door to lock and unlock it.

The problem is that a replacement key costs several hundred pounds which I am very reluctant to pay.

And I suppose the answer to the lack of security of cars in the old days was a steering wheel lock, but that didn't stop people stealing four wheels one time when my car was parked in my driveway one time in London.
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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:52 - Mar 1 with 273 viewsChurchman

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:47 - Mar 1 by DJR

The two keys I have for my car are partially broken. One has the key slightly bent, which means I can't put it into my ignition. The other has a key which works in the ignition, but the electrics on it have gone, so I have to put the key in the door to lock and unlock it.

The problem is that a replacement key costs several hundred pounds which I am very reluctant to pay.

And I suppose the answer to the lack of security of cars in the old days was a steering wheel lock, but that didn't stop people stealing four wheels one time when my car was parked in my driveway one time in London.
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That’s a real pain. You are probably going to have to replace one of them when you come to replace the car with your Bentley Continental, so you might as well replace it now and get some use from it. Seriously, it’s a ridiculous sum to replace a key though. Yes, it has to be programmed, but one can’t help feeling there’s an element of Kerching rip off in it.
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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 17:00 - Mar 1 with 269 viewsDJR

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:31 - Mar 1 by BloomBlue

I would suggest they look at the impact of Internet usage on the climate. That has increased dramatically over the last 10 years, so much used is moving to online but the electric required has be generated.
The best thing they could do is turn off the Internet until we can generate enough energy from green sources to power it and then turn the internet back on.


And cryptocurrencies aren't very green either.

"Bitcoin, the world’s largest cryptocurrency, currently consumes an estimated 150 terawatt-hours of electricity annually – more than the entire country of Argentina, population 45 million. Producing that energy emits some 65 megatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually – comparable to the emissions of Greece – making crypto a significant contributor to global air pollution and climate change."
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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 17:07 - Mar 1 with 262 viewsDanTheMan

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 16:31 - Mar 1 by BloomBlue

I would suggest they look at the impact of Internet usage on the climate. That has increased dramatically over the last 10 years, so much used is moving to online but the electric required has be generated.
The best thing they could do is turn off the Internet until we can generate enough energy from green sources to power it and then turn the internet back on.


Whilst the internet (and all related data centres) produce a lot of CO2, "turning off" the internet would cause complete worldwide chaos.

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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 17:36 - Mar 1 with 252 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 17:07 - Mar 1 by DanTheMan

Whilst the internet (and all related data centres) produce a lot of CO2, "turning off" the internet would cause complete worldwide chaos.


Sounds like all the more reason not to rely on it.

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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 17:47 - Mar 1 with 242 viewsBloomBlue

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 17:07 - Mar 1 by DanTheMan

Whilst the internet (and all related data centres) produce a lot of CO2, "turning off" the internet would cause complete worldwide chaos.


But if it helps dramatically reduce CO2, which it will, then turn it off. Either we want to save the planet or we don't.
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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 18:03 - Mar 1 with 227 viewsSlippinJimmyJuan

This is a little bit off topic, but still in the same ballpark. All new cars and vans must be zero emissions at the tailpipe from 2035. I welcome this, it kind of feels like its a bit too little too late, but more positive than negative.

However, electric charging vehicles are all well and good if you live in a house with a driveway/garage but what about the huge number of people who live in high rise flats etc. How will these people charge their cars? Oh, they'll have to use public charging points? So someone already working multiple jobs to be able to afford rent now has to spend time every day charging their car? It just doesn't seem right to me.

What is the future of the electric car? Will we see batteries that can be easily removed and charged in the home or swapped out at retooled "petrol" stations? Something like this surely, or how else will millions of people be able to swap from a traditional combustion engine to something more environmentally friendly? Is there some other form of electric car technology being worked on that would render these questions pointless? I don't know that much about it all but it seems a glaring issue to me.

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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 18:16 - Mar 1 with 217 viewsRyorry

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 18:03 - Mar 1 by SlippinJimmyJuan

This is a little bit off topic, but still in the same ballpark. All new cars and vans must be zero emissions at the tailpipe from 2035. I welcome this, it kind of feels like its a bit too little too late, but more positive than negative.

However, electric charging vehicles are all well and good if you live in a house with a driveway/garage but what about the huge number of people who live in high rise flats etc. How will these people charge their cars? Oh, they'll have to use public charging points? So someone already working multiple jobs to be able to afford rent now has to spend time every day charging their car? It just doesn't seem right to me.

What is the future of the electric car? Will we see batteries that can be easily removed and charged in the home or swapped out at retooled "petrol" stations? Something like this surely, or how else will millions of people be able to swap from a traditional combustion engine to something more environmentally friendly? Is there some other form of electric car technology being worked on that would render these questions pointless? I don't know that much about it all but it seems a glaring issue to me.


If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. by Ryorry 1 Mar 2023 16:33
See also the electricity for E-cars having to be generated from somewhere!



And batteries being extremely heavy items mean many disabled and/or elderly people would not be able to remove, swap or carry them around.
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If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 18:28 - Mar 1 with 209 viewsDJR

If anything illustrates what a bunch of lemmings we are, it's this. on 18:03 - Mar 1 by SlippinJimmyJuan

This is a little bit off topic, but still in the same ballpark. All new cars and vans must be zero emissions at the tailpipe from 2035. I welcome this, it kind of feels like its a bit too little too late, but more positive than negative.

However, electric charging vehicles are all well and good if you live in a house with a driveway/garage but what about the huge number of people who live in high rise flats etc. How will these people charge their cars? Oh, they'll have to use public charging points? So someone already working multiple jobs to be able to afford rent now has to spend time every day charging their car? It just doesn't seem right to me.

What is the future of the electric car? Will we see batteries that can be easily removed and charged in the home or swapped out at retooled "petrol" stations? Something like this surely, or how else will millions of people be able to swap from a traditional combustion engine to something more environmentally friendly? Is there some other form of electric car technology being worked on that would render these questions pointless? I don't know that much about it all but it seems a glaring issue to me.


I think you are absolutely right. There's no point in imposing these sort of deadlines if the implications haven't been thought through, and you can well imagine that this country will be well behind other countries when it comes to infrastructure etc.

Incidentally, a house in the town where I live which used to charge a car parked in the road alongside it by a long cable from an upstairs window draped over the pavement.

The house burnt down about a year ago, and of course if may have been nothing to do with the cable, but the prospect of perhaps hundreds of thousands of people doing the same in cases where there is no driveway but there is parking alongside doesn't fill one with confidence: I assume each house isn't going to get its own street charging machine.
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