| Don't forget to vote. on 13:50 - May 4 with 1093 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Don't forget to vote. on 11:59 - May 4 by positivity |
badger's spot on. let's get better, then keep getting better.
your solution seems to be "don't care, don't vote", which amplifies the tory vote and enables them to make things worse and worse. this isn't fair on the poor who will be the victims of the tories' incompetence and greed
don't make the perfect the enemy of the good. vote for better, vote for the best possible candidate who can win [Post edited 4 May 2023 12:02]
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So how has that been working out since let's say Thatcher....things must be so much better now. |  |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 13:56 - May 4 with 1088 views | positivity |
| Don't forget to vote. on 13:50 - May 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
So how has that been working out since let's say Thatcher....things must be so much better now. |
the nhs got demonstrably better under labour, then the tories got in and it became demonstrably worse.
keep enabling the tories if your conscience allows, but i'll be voting against them |  |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 14:02 - May 4 with 1076 views | positivity |
| Don't forget to vote. on 13:42 - May 4 by DJR |
As a Labour Party member who voted for him, I feel he did get in on false pretences given his various U-turns.
The thing is had I known he would turn out like this politically, I would have voted for Lisa Nandy, who I thought was a bit too centrist, because she is more relatable and did particularly well in focus groups about the Labour leadership election. [Post edited 4 May 2023 13:43]
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good job nandy's still very much on board then, there may be time for her yet. | |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 14:43 - May 4 with 1048 views | tractordownsouth |
IMO the main issue with university funding isn't the fees themselves. I'm happy to pay back for my degree above a certain income threshold because without that contribution, universities would be much more selective, pulling up the ladder for poorer students. Also, removing fees altogether would effectively be a tax cut for the richest because it's a marginal tax and those earning below the limit don't pay anything.
Instead, interest on the debt should be scrapped. Fees are a defacto tax, and nobody pays interest on a tax, plus it means that wealthier graduates end up paying less than middle earners because their debt is paid off more quickly.
Reducing the repayment threshold to 25k was ridiculous too. It should be pegged to average income, so that only those who have clearly financially benefited from their degree have to pay it back.
In summary, the current system is a shambles and more needs to be done but abolishing fees isn't the best solution. |  |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 15:13 - May 4 with 1025 views | Darth_Koont |
| Don't forget to vote. on 13:50 - May 4 by positivity |
as usual no response to the meat of the topic: " Don't forget to vote."
vote for the best possible option. if you don't vote then the worst possible option may get in and it's on you.
if you want to get involved with an even better option and get them into a winning position for next time, go for it. i encourage it. but sitting on your hands today just enables the tories and accelerates the destruction of the climate and the nhs.
you've posted a lot of nonsense over the years, but "starmer is the LEAST honest politician i've EVER seen", shows just how far down the conspiracy rabbithole you are.
that's utterly ridiculous, how can you take yourself seriously with tripe like that, let alone anyone else!!
even your obscure articles, don't say "starmer is the LEAST honest politician i've EVER seen"! not exactly peer-reviewed evidence is it?!
for every novara media article trashing starmer, i'm sure someone could find many more trashing corbyn. doesn't make them true either! |
Dear oh dear.
You’re as bad as the diehard Johnson and Brexit supporters. As long as you get what you want you’ll just dismiss the lies and dishonesty.
Many millions of people in the UK deserve a lot better than that. Not least because all the lies have been about helping them and lifting society from the top but now it’s back to the same busted trickle-down nonsense and looking after establishment interests as before. |  |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 15:18 - May 4 with 1006 views | DJR |
| Don't forget to vote. on 14:02 - May 4 by positivity |
good job nandy's still very much on board then, there may be time for her yet. |
It's perhaps surprising that she seems to have a rather low profile these days, but I sense she is too much of a maverick to be considered by those running the show a suitable replacement for Starmer.
The dreadful Wes Streeting would seem to me to be their choice. |  | | |
| Don't forget to vote. on 15:23 - May 4 with 983 views | positivity |
| Don't forget to vote. on 15:13 - May 4 by Darth_Koont |
Dear oh dear.
You’re as bad as the diehard Johnson and Brexit supporters. As long as you get what you want you’ll just dismiss the lies and dishonesty.
Many millions of people in the UK deserve a lot better than that. Not least because all the lies have been about helping them and lifting society from the top but now it’s back to the same busted trickle-down nonsense and looking after establishment interests as before. |
as usual no response to the meat of the topic: " Don't forget to vote."
vote for the best possible option. if you don't vote then the worst possible option may get in and it's on you.
if you want to get involved with an even better option and get them into a winning position for next time, go for it. i encourage it. but sitting on your hands today just enables the tories and accelerates the destruction of the climate and the nhs.
you've posted a lot of nonsense over the years, but "starmer is the LEAST honest politician i've EVER seen", shows just how far down the conspiracy rabbithole you are.
that's utterly ridiculous, how can you take yourself seriously with tripe like that, let alone anyone else!!
i can put up with people changing their mind or even lying if it made the world a better place, which is "what i want". if it improves the nhs, reduces climate change then i'll suck it up.
i was prepared to accept blair's follies, corbyn's flip-flopping on europe/privatisation/anti-semitism etc etc because i knew they'd be better for the country than the alternative. same with labour in 2023, they would be far better than the alternative (the tories).
you on the other hand throw your toys out of the pram if you can't get exactly what you want.
grow up, the world doesn't work like that, take the best you can for now and work to improve it. your whinging and flouncing won't help one single person | |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 15:29 - May 4 with 977 views | positivity |
| Don't forget to vote. on 15:18 - May 4 by DJR |
It's perhaps surprising that she seems to have a rather low profile these days, but I sense she is too much of a maverick to be considered by those running the show a suitable replacement for Starmer.
The dreadful Wes Streeting would seem to me to be their choice. |
a lot can happen in politics, streeting could prove himself to be an excellent health secretary and improve his standing, or he could fail and open the door for different ideas.
health's a tricky job and if waiting lists don't improve under labour the incumbent will suffer, whatever their standing in the 'party'
after the last few years, i don't think the country wants a maverick, but i think that's a bit unfair on nandy. she seems pretty competent and sensible to me, unpopular with the corbynites sure, but i don't think they'd agitate against her | |
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| Don't forget to vote. on 15:47 - May 4 with 948 views | HARRY10 |
| Don't forget to vote. on 09:42 - May 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"Indeed, if you're in favour of electoral reform, then Labour are the only party currently who can deliver it."
....they won't. |
What is needed is greater accountability. It should not need long drawn out procedures to remove those who blatantly flout the rules.
It also needs the ending of second jobs - except where it is a requirement to maintain professional qualifications.
Within the chamber it needs more rigorous scrutiny. Something that has fell by the wayside with having the utterly inept Linseed Oil as the speaker. A man so craven to the Tories that he makes Uriah Heap appear as an outspoken critic of the social order.
It cannot be right either that the Prime Miniature fails to answer questions at PMQs and simply reads out prepared answers, that often contain lies and certainly do not address the question asked.
We need MPs who are there to help others, not help themselves. We also need a greater strengthening of local democracy and NOT, absolutely NOT what some on here are calling for ... less local control ie MPs decided by Head Office and governments decided by behind closed doors with all manner of horse trading, by a select few.
However, that is dependent upon voter engagement. And stripping away two fundamental layers will certainly not aid that cause. | | | |
| Don't forget to vote. on 21:18 - May 4 with 906 views | gazzer1999 |
| Don't forget to vote. on 15:47 - May 4 by HARRY10 |
What is needed is greater accountability. It should not need long drawn out procedures to remove those who blatantly flout the rules.
It also needs the ending of second jobs - except where it is a requirement to maintain professional qualifications.
Within the chamber it needs more rigorous scrutiny. Something that has fell by the wayside with having the utterly inept Linseed Oil as the speaker. A man so craven to the Tories that he makes Uriah Heap appear as an outspoken critic of the social order.
It cannot be right either that the Prime Miniature fails to answer questions at PMQs and simply reads out prepared answers, that often contain lies and certainly do not address the question asked.
We need MPs who are there to help others, not help themselves. We also need a greater strengthening of local democracy and NOT, absolutely NOT what some on here are calling for ... less local control ie MPs decided by Head Office and governments decided by behind closed doors with all manner of horse trading, by a select few.
However, that is dependent upon voter engagement. And stripping away two fundamental layers will certainly not aid that cause. |
"It cannot be right either that the Prime Miniature fails to answer questions at PMQs and simply reads out prepared answers, that often contain lies and certainly do not address the question asked"
Remember it was that Blair creature that removed having to stand up and answer questions without prior knowledge. Brown and Cameron carried it on, PMQs is largely irrelevant if some script writer such as the vile Campbell pens the answer. |  | | |
| Don't forget to vote. on 22:34 - May 4 with 858 views | HARRY10 |
| Don't forget to vote. on 21:18 - May 4 by gazzer1999 |
"It cannot be right either that the Prime Miniature fails to answer questions at PMQs and simply reads out prepared answers, that often contain lies and certainly do not address the question asked"
Remember it was that Blair creature that removed having to stand up and answer questions without prior knowledge. Brown and Cameron carried it on, PMQs is largely irrelevant if some script writer such as the vile Campbell pens the answer. |
Rightie in making up stuff shock
I think lies spew out of them more than effluent from the privatised water companies | | | |
| Don't forget to vote. on 07:57 - May 5 with 810 views | DJR |
| Don't forget to vote. on 21:18 - May 4 by gazzer1999 |
"It cannot be right either that the Prime Miniature fails to answer questions at PMQs and simply reads out prepared answers, that often contain lies and certainly do not address the question asked"
Remember it was that Blair creature that removed having to stand up and answer questions without prior knowledge. Brown and Cameron carried it on, PMQs is largely irrelevant if some script writer such as the vile Campbell pens the answer. |
Blair cut down the number of PMQs per week from two to one, but did not do as you suggest because the PM, for the time being, has no actual knowledge of the questions he or she will be asked. | | | |
| Don't forget to vote. on 10:19 - May 5 with 773 views | noggin |
| Don't forget to vote. on 09:42 - May 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"Indeed, if you're in favour of electoral reform, then Labour are the only party currently who can deliver it."
....they won't. |
And when they don't, the only alternative will be to vote Tory. And so it goes on and on and on... |  |
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