| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution 00:20 - Jun 17 with 887 views | factual_blue |
They can have their honours, but they are all invested by Prince Andrew. |  |
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| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 00:41 - Jun 17 with 843 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Fitting!
By which I mean "Most appropriate!" not "Prince Andrew would be waving the sword around as they knelt before him, whilst undergoing uncontrollable muscle spasms." Although, thinking about it... |  | | |
| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 00:46 - Jun 17 with 840 views | MattinLondon |
The only snag being that his mates lack the moral compass to really care who invests them. The sooner we abolish the HoL the better - can’t believe that it’s still has a place in society. |  | | |
| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 06:44 - Jun 17 with 763 views | WeWereZombies |
As a codicil, they also have to hand over all their savings...and those are invested by Liz Truss. |  |
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| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 07:11 - Jun 17 with 746 views | Churchman |
| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 00:46 - Jun 17 by MattinLondon |
The only snag being that his mates lack the moral compass to really care who invests them. The sooner we abolish the HoL the better - can’t believe that it’s still has a place in society. |
Whilst you have a monarchy, you have a HoL and the systemic privilege it supports. A gravy train. Both would go, in my world, especially now Elizabeth is gone. |  | | |
| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 08:52 - Jun 17 with 701 views | Guthrum |
| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 00:46 - Jun 17 by MattinLondon |
The only snag being that his mates lack the moral compass to really care who invests them. The sooner we abolish the HoL the better - can’t believe that it’s still has a place in society. |
There are two aspects to the HoL which I would like to see preserved.
Firstly, a system of noting and rewarding those who have made a significant contribution to the country, either by individual actions/achievements or by long service. Titles and gongs are a relatively cheap and easy way of doing that. Pretty much all countries, irrespective of government type, have them.
Secondly, having a chamber not dependent upon elections - which are inevitably driven by party politics - to oversee and curb the legislation proposed by whoever is in governmnet. There's little point in having a House of Commons with another House of Commons on top, just with less executive power. It's entirely unrealistic to expect that elections for a new upper chamber would not become subject to the same forces (and venal donor influence) as we see for the lower one today.
My recipe for reform would be to reduce numbers in the Lords; to introduce a retirement age limit (but a fairly high one, around 85) and removal of membership for consistent non-attendance; to abolish political appointment batches (e.g. PM resignation honours); to appontments out of the hands of the Government altogether by having a fully independent committee to decide upon who is approved. It's not wildly democratic, but will hopefully achieve the desired effect. |  |
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| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 09:38 - Jun 17 with 682 views | WeWereZombies |
| Dealing with boris' Honours List - Facters' simple solution on 08:52 - Jun 17 by Guthrum |
There are two aspects to the HoL which I would like to see preserved.
Firstly, a system of noting and rewarding those who have made a significant contribution to the country, either by individual actions/achievements or by long service. Titles and gongs are a relatively cheap and easy way of doing that. Pretty much all countries, irrespective of government type, have them.
Secondly, having a chamber not dependent upon elections - which are inevitably driven by party politics - to oversee and curb the legislation proposed by whoever is in governmnet. There's little point in having a House of Commons with another House of Commons on top, just with less executive power. It's entirely unrealistic to expect that elections for a new upper chamber would not become subject to the same forces (and venal donor influence) as we see for the lower one today.
My recipe for reform would be to reduce numbers in the Lords; to introduce a retirement age limit (but a fairly high one, around 85) and removal of membership for consistent non-attendance; to abolish political appointment batches (e.g. PM resignation honours); to appontments out of the hands of the Government altogether by having a fully independent committee to decide upon who is approved. It's not wildly democratic, but will hopefully achieve the desired effect. |
Agree with all of that and would add that the abolition of the twenty six seats in the Lords handed out to bishops of the Church of England by Parliament should be abolished forthwith:
https://humanists.uk/campaigns/secularism/constitutional-reform/bishops-in-the-l | |
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