| Taking back control? on 18:28 - Aug 2 with 547 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Taking back control? on 16:40 - Aug 2 by DJR |
I think I'm in line with you both.
I didn't want Brexit but accepted the vote, and thought Theresa May's deal was the best we were going to get.
As it was the remain lobby were not happy with that, and nor were the ERG, so we ended up with the hardest Brexit possible.
Now that Brexit has ceased to be an issue which those on the right bang on about, it does seem that the Government are starting to be a bit more pragmatic, and maybe Labour will be too if they get elected.
I suppose my OP post was mainly pointing out the irony of the right wing press completely keeping their head down these days when the extreme version of Brexit they championed is shown to be a nonsense. [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 16:42]
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I'm slightly different inasmuch as although I wanted to remain, when the result came out and all the sh1t hit the fan I wanted a clean hard break, I thought that would be the cleanest and quickest way to move on. |  |
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| Taking back control? on 18:33 - Aug 2 with 531 views | DJR |
| Taking back control? on 18:28 - Aug 2 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm slightly different inasmuch as although I wanted to remain, when the result came out and all the sh1t hit the fan I wanted a clean hard break, I thought that would be the cleanest and quickest way to move on. |
Interesting. A friend of mine voted to leave, not so much because he believed in it, more that he wanted the previous twenty odd years of fighting over the EU to end. |  | | |
| Taking back control? on 18:38 - Aug 2 with 517 views | DJR |
| Taking back control? on 18:09 - Aug 2 by HARRY10 |
No. that is incorrect.
We ended up with Brexit. There is a never was a soft, light, user-friendly or any other 'type' of brexit.Just as there is not any part pregnancy.
You are either in or out.It is just the thickos whinging because what they were told would happen has happened, with worse to come. |
My view is that it was clearly possible to have had a much softer, more pragmatic Brexit. Instead, we ended up with a hard Brexit based on complete irrationality. | | | |
| Taking back control? on 20:00 - Aug 2 with 494 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taking back control? on 13:09 - Aug 2 by the_toff |
I'm bored with all the discussion, finger pointing, what ifs and all the rest of it. We can dwell on it and cry about it which achieves the square root of f all, or as a business owner I can forge ahead with the new cards I've been dealt (albeit not ones I wanted). That's a better use of my time and energy.
I was once told you can't influence the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sail. |
The point of the finger pointing is to remind all those people who voted ‘to get Brexit done’ that they were sold a dud, so hopefully they don’t continue to support this bunch of charlatans that are fecking over the country. Nobody should be allowed to forget. But yes, individually we all have to look for opportunities where we can find them. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Imo of course. |  |
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| Taking back control? on 20:06 - Aug 2 with 491 views | the_toff |
| Taking back control? on 20:00 - Aug 2 by Swansea_Blue |
The point of the finger pointing is to remind all those people who voted ‘to get Brexit done’ that they were sold a dud, so hopefully they don’t continue to support this bunch of charlatans that are fecking over the country. Nobody should be allowed to forget. But yes, individually we all have to look for opportunities where we can find them. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Imo of course. |
I don't actually disagree with that in so much as learning from the past. Those who believed a word that came out of the mouths of the charlatans who claimed to represent them were indeed, sold a dud. Many could see it for what it was at the time, sadly more couldn't or didn't. So yes I agree with that point, those involved and those complicit shouldn't be anywhere near public office.
I just mean at an individual level there's no value in ruing what might've been. I've been through a period of being annoyed and perplexed, it'll always sadden me that we are where we are. But we have to move on as a society and country. It's caused enough division already, I don't want to contribute to any more of that personally and know my energy is best spent making the best of the opportunities that still exist for me and my family. |  | | |
| Taking back control? on 20:19 - Aug 2 with 487 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Taking back control? on 20:00 - Aug 2 by Swansea_Blue |
The point of the finger pointing is to remind all those people who voted ‘to get Brexit done’ that they were sold a dud, so hopefully they don’t continue to support this bunch of charlatans that are fecking over the country. Nobody should be allowed to forget. But yes, individually we all have to look for opportunities where we can find them. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Imo of course. |
We also differ then as I respect peoples vote and I do understand that there are reasons to leave........but in my opinion remain far outweighed leave.
However (and please don't take this the wrong way because I think you are a decent bloke) I think it's ignorant and shows a complete lack of class to label leavers as thick.
.......It's just that it hasn't been handled awfully well and what with the pandemic everything is a sh1t show. | |
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| Taking back control? on 21:11 - Aug 2 with 467 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taking back control? on 20:19 - Aug 2 by Lord_Lucan |
We also differ then as I respect peoples vote and I do understand that there are reasons to leave........but in my opinion remain far outweighed leave.
However (and please don't take this the wrong way because I think you are a decent bloke) I think it's ignorant and shows a complete lack of class to label leavers as thick.
.......It's just that it hasn't been handled awfully well and what with the pandemic everything is a sh1t show. |
Agreed. It’s not in the slightest bit helpful to assume all leave voters were thick. That’s clearly wrong, ignorant and just propagates the polarisation. | |
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| Taking back control? on 12:53 - Aug 3 with 394 views | DJR |
| Taking back control? on 20:19 - Aug 2 by Lord_Lucan |
We also differ then as I respect peoples vote and I do understand that there are reasons to leave........but in my opinion remain far outweighed leave.
However (and please don't take this the wrong way because I think you are a decent bloke) I think it's ignorant and shows a complete lack of class to label leavers as thick.
.......It's just that it hasn't been handled awfully well and what with the pandemic everything is a sh1t show. |
I couldn't agree more with your second paragraph. | | | |
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