| Ashton interview on 13:26 - Nov 15 with 1113 views | ITFCBlues |
| Ashton interview on 09:28 - Nov 15 by ElderGrizzly |
As above, the best way to increase revenue is to get £100m+ a season from the PL rather than £6m or so from the Championship.
Spending £35m+ on a new stand to get an increase in revenue of £3m a season isn't a bad rate of return but isn't going to help the overall aims.
Plus they have to show a return on their investment for their pension funds/shareholders. The way they do that is get us promoted, stay there and then sell us for a huge profit. |
Of course, but there is no guarantee what so ever that we will go up this season. If everyones plans was "well we will win promotion and increase revenue by 100m" then there will be 21 other clubs disappointed.
If we increase revenue by 3m a season, that's 9m over the course of a 3 year FFP cycle - which could be massive in terms of getting 1 or 2 new players through the door that push you over the line. |  |
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| Ashton interview on 13:35 - Nov 15 with 1082 views | longtimefan |
| Ashton interview on 13:26 - Nov 15 by ITFCBlues |
Of course, but there is no guarantee what so ever that we will go up this season. If everyones plans was "well we will win promotion and increase revenue by 100m" then there will be 21 other clubs disappointed.
If we increase revenue by 3m a season, that's 9m over the course of a 3 year FFP cycle - which could be massive in terms of getting 1 or 2 new players through the door that push you over the line. |
...and if we lose ~7K seats during development (guess around 4-£5M income) .... and don't get promoted in the next three years ... and lose KMK .... and don't fill the existing 29K seats ???. What ever route you take involves risks. To me the logical approach would be to wait until we get promotion where we at least have TV money as by far the largest income source. |  | | |
| Ashton interview on 14:21 - Nov 15 with 1007 views | Vic |
I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has already been covered.
Rebuilding/extending the Cobbold stand doesn't make sense to me if done simply for gate revenue. This is a tiny part of what we'll get if we get promoted - or probably even stabilise in the champ. I'd much rather we invest in the squad, etc.
I can only assume that the plans for a rebuild must include other entertainment and commercial opportunities that will significantly increase income as well adding real value to the site. |  |
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| Ashton interview on 14:25 - Nov 15 with 997 views | Lion |
| Ashton interview on 13:22 - Nov 15 by longtimefan |
The point of the spending on players and stands being different is valid. The problem I see though is that if development can't happen with the current stand in place then you're talking about a season of lost income of ~7K attendees. The development might not come from the player's budget pot but the loss of gate income will affect that budget as we will be earning less from a FFP point of view. You also have a season where you've got ~7K disgruntled supporters who can no longer attend! |
I hear you. But we don't know what the plans for a new stand would be. They will have some very clever ( and expensive ) people, architects, engineers etc looking at it. Is it possible that they would add a tier on to the top of the current stand which means the stand below could still be used on match days, if not at the start but once they get to a certain stage of the build?
Why did the club only sell 21,000 season tickets when i'm pretty sure ( i have no factual basis for this, just a feeling ) that they could have sold at least 25,000? I think it is because they need somewhere to move those 21000 people, assuming they all renew, when they do start the build? It seem a specific number, 21,000 - perhaps that is the amount they can fit in the other 3 stands.
I absolutely agree you get a short term loss of revenue whilst being constructed, but maybe they will get forward payments to compensate this from companies wanting to make use of the new corporate facilities. Golden rule of financial growth is there is always risk to it because you have to speculate to accumulate. If you listen to what Mark Ashton has been saying particularly for the last 6 months, it isn't just about getting more bums on seats, it is about the corporate side and making the stadium as a whole a revenue stream for 365 days a year, not just on match days. That revenue stream will go directly to the squad pot.
Also, as someone else stated, i know that even in those golden years with Sir Bobby we were only getting circa 20,000 sometimes, but football attendances as a whole were down then because of football hooliganism and the fans being treated like cattle.
Even now, we know there is a hardcore of fans who will go to games regardless of what's happening on the pitch and if things weren't going so well we would lose a few thousand of the current crowd, but i refuse to believe we couldn't fill a 35/40,000 stadium. In Bobbys time, wider Ipswich had a population of circa 170,000, isn't it now around 220,000? We are a one club county, we can and already do attract fans right up to Chelmsford, right up to Diss.
What was that film with Kevin Costner, 'Build it and they will come...' Field of dreams ;0) Up the farkin towan | |
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| Ashton interview on 14:26 - Nov 15 with 994 views | Vic |
| Ashton interview on 10:28 - Nov 15 by Churchman |
Depends on whether there are supports there holding the North Stand up.
Get rid of the club shop. Plonk that on the land behind Churchmans and bung a few seats in that corner. The other corner? Don’t know. Hopefully the same. The embarrassing Wendy House can go and the dudes in there shoved somewhere else. That’s three corners definitely sorted.
My idea of suspending away fans from helium balloons above Churchmans would work. The view might be a tad distant but up there they’ll have other things to worry about. These ideas would allow about 4000 ITFC fans in and would help.
A permanent facility on the old training pitch instead of the mouldering tent would be nice. Maybe an in house brewery in the corner!
I haven’t had a call from Ashton yet to help with design. No idea why. My fees are very reasonable….
Edit: before anyone asks how the players would get on the pitch the answer is simple. By lift next to the pitch - a bit like how the romans got the lions into the Colosseum. [Post edited 15 Nov 2023 10:32]
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just the sort of out of the box, blue sky thinking MA loves. Top work Churchy | |
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| Ashton interview on 15:07 - Nov 15 with 919 views | CityBlue |
We need to increase capacity to 35k as am EPL benchmark. We would have no problem's selling that out each week in the EPL and I think we would be close to 32k per week in the EFL.
The vison that Mark A described to me one afternoon was that of a single tier side stand that "brought the noise" and would see the away section repositioned to the SAR Upper next to the players tunnel (west side). This is in line with access for away fans from their designated parking and allows for a wall of blue and white.
To lift the roof and build a tier extension is actually not such a mammoth ask. The ground works would be separate from the existing stand and would just need a final "link up" piece of work from existing upper tier to new extended seating. It could even be built whilst the Cobbold is in full use ala Anfield works. |  |
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| Ashton interview on 16:32 - Nov 15 with 832 views | DavoIPB |
Have people have forgotten that the game changer project was a 7-10 yr project and then plan to sell. By redevelopment of the stand they make the club a better prospect to buyers. | | | |
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