| TWTD Leagues 05:53 - May 27 with 4631 views | ibbleobble |
Phil and Gav, the time has come to introduce some kind of filtering mechanism to this forum based on post votes. 4 divisions of people based on popularity, reason, good humour, common sense and intellect or insight.
Some might call it elitist but id call it good for mental health. I think I’d rather be in a smaller pool of like minded, sensible folk and fear relegation if I didn’t maintain a standard than this sea of noise and nonsense.
The last 2-weeks really have been quite torturous on here and I’m all up for looking for ways to improve this experience. Hopefully it’d put some checks and balances in place and make people think twice before posting. |  | | |  |
| TWTD Leagues on 12:51 - May 27 with 1636 views | Pinewoodblue |
| TWTD Leagues on 12:46 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
Any ideas of your own to share to improve the platform? |
The platform is what people make of it.
Unfortunately far too many seem unable to scroll past posts that they know are likely to annoy them. |  |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:28 - May 27 with 1598 views | Cafe_Newman |
Your idea is based on a voting system which rewards conformity to consensus more than anything else.
Unless you aspire to live in an echo chamber (at one end of the league system)or in a place where everyone disagrees with each other (in the lowest league), you need to go back to the drawing board.
I have no problem with emojis representing a good, rubbish or funny post, but cumulative scores for posters tell you little more than how long they have been conforming to popular opinion for. It's not far off having a social credit score operated by cliiquish, self-appointed brown shirts. |  | | |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:30 - May 27 with 1591 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 12:46 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
Any ideas of your own to share to improve the platform? |
Doesn't need improving. In my opinion, it's perfect just the way it is. |  |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:32 - May 27 with 1584 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 12:51 - May 27 by Pinewoodblue |
The platform is what people make of it.
Unfortunately far too many seem unable to scroll past posts that they know are likely to annoy them. |
Exactly. I have it on Football only now as don't want all the political stuff. My choice as it is theirs to like it.
I am an old fart but manage in general to navigate it, so it can't be hard for all you youngsters out there. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:33 - May 27 with 1583 views | Swailsey |
Yes! Alienate people! Wonderful. |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:33 - May 27 with 1581 views | Ryorry |
I’ve read plenty of stupid stuff on here, but this takes the hobnob. |  |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:35 - May 27 with 1571 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:33 - May 27 by Ryorry |
I’ve read plenty of stupid stuff on here, but this takes the hobnob. |
You eating at the top table then? | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:38 - May 27 with 1561 views | ibbleobble |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:28 - May 27 by Cafe_Newman |
Your idea is based on a voting system which rewards conformity to consensus more than anything else.
Unless you aspire to live in an echo chamber (at one end of the league system)or in a place where everyone disagrees with each other (in the lowest league), you need to go back to the drawing board.
I have no problem with emojis representing a good, rubbish or funny post, but cumulative scores for posters tell you little more than how long they have been conforming to popular opinion for. It's not far off having a social credit score operated by cliiquish, self-appointed brown shirts. |
A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite and my counter to the point about echo chambers is that it can be easily flipped and relabelled as community, which is far more engaging than the disparate format at present.
I take the points and we can debate two sides of the coin flip but a refresh wouldn’t go amiss. There’s clearly a growing unhealthy divide as epitomised by Homer_123’s post the other day, which is what spawned this thread. | | | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:38 - May 27 with 1561 views | Ryorry |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:35 - May 27 by MK1 |
You eating at the top table then? |
Hobnobs are a food of the gods Phil n Gav that I can only dream of eating. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:39 - May 27 with 1559 views | Swailsey |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:38 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite and my counter to the point about echo chambers is that it can be easily flipped and relabelled as community, which is far more engaging than the disparate format at present.
I take the points and we can debate two sides of the coin flip but a refresh wouldn’t go amiss. There’s clearly a growing unhealthy divide as epitomised by Homer_123’s post the other day, which is what spawned this thread. |
So tiering people is the way forward? | |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:42 - May 27 with 1539 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:38 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite and my counter to the point about echo chambers is that it can be easily flipped and relabelled as community, which is far more engaging than the disparate format at present.
I take the points and we can debate two sides of the coin flip but a refresh wouldn’t go amiss. There’s clearly a growing unhealthy divide as epitomised by Homer_123’s post the other day, which is what spawned this thread. |
You are replying to all the people you don't want anything to do with. Oh the irony of it. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:42 - May 27 with 1530 views | ibbleobble |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:33 - May 27 by Swailsey |
Yes! Alienate people! Wonderful. |
People are alienated with the ignore button anyway… | | | |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 with 1502 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:42 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
People are alienated with the ignore button anyway… |
But they ain't put into a league or column base on likes or dislikes. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 with 1498 views | Swailsey |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:42 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
People are alienated with the ignore button anyway… |
Yes, but what better way to make people feel unique and special then by assigning them to a group based on personality types, and rewarding those who are deemed to have higher types. I’m sure that will only improve mental health as you say. | |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 with 1496 views | ibbleobble |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:42 - May 27 by MK1 |
You are replying to all the people you don't want anything to do with. Oh the irony of it. |
That actually doesn’t make sense does it? If I didn’t want anything to do with them, I wouldn’t reply to them. It’s your post that is ironic. | | | |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 with 1496 views | Ryorry |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:38 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite and my counter to the point about echo chambers is that it can be easily flipped and relabelled as community, which is far more engaging than the disparate format at present.
I take the points and we can debate two sides of the coin flip but a refresh wouldn’t go amiss. There’s clearly a growing unhealthy divide as epitomised by Homer_123’s post the other day, which is what spawned this thread. |
Votes are in many cases just a reflection of how much of their mis-spent youth, middle and old age posters have spent on here though. A ‘votes per post’ % would be a more accurate reflection. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:45 - May 27 with 1482 views | ibbleobble |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 by Ryorry |
Votes are in many cases just a reflection of how much of their mis-spent youth, middle and old age posters have spent on here though. A ‘votes per post’ % would be a more accurate reflection. |
A fair shout. That would improve the value of voting for sure. It gets my vote! | | | |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:48 - May 27 with 1441 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
That actually doesn’t make sense does it? If I didn’t want anything to do with them, I wouldn’t reply to them. It’s your post that is ironic. |
In your league system, we are out of your league mate. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:49 - May 27 with 1437 views | Swailsey |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:48 - May 27 by MK1 |
In your league system, we are out of your league mate. |
I’m in a league of my own | |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| TWTD Leagues on 13:50 - May 27 with 1427 views | ibbleobble |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:44 - May 27 by Swailsey |
Yes, but what better way to make people feel unique and special then by assigning them to a group based on personality types, and rewarding those who are deemed to have higher types. I’m sure that will only improve mental health as you say. |
Leagues is probably the wrong term to be fair as it implies hierarchy. Nothing wrong with groups though. There’s no reward that way, just groups or collectives.
And maybe it’s not quantified, maybe it’s qualified but that implies a new system based on meta data. [Post edited 27 May 2024 13:54]
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| TWTD Leagues on 14:19 - May 27 with 1374 views | Cafe_Newman |
| TWTD Leagues on 13:38 - May 27 by ibbleobble |
A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite and my counter to the point about echo chambers is that it can be easily flipped and relabelled as community, which is far more engaging than the disparate format at present.
I take the points and we can debate two sides of the coin flip but a refresh wouldn’t go amiss. There’s clearly a growing unhealthy divide as epitomised by Homer_123’s post the other day, which is what spawned this thread. |
"A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite"
I should point out that wanting changes to the forum structure is generally against the wishes of those who have accumulated lots of points. They are probably not the majority but they are (for good or bad) the core of this forum.
If you expect to get votes for being non-conformist, I'll see you in the bottom league. | | | |
| TWTD Leagues on 14:36 - May 27 with 1346 views | MK1 |
| TWTD Leagues on 14:19 - May 27 by Cafe_Newman |
"A vote isn’t conformism, it’s the opposite"
I should point out that wanting changes to the forum structure is generally against the wishes of those who have accumulated lots of points. They are probably not the majority but they are (for good or bad) the core of this forum.
If you expect to get votes for being non-conformist, I'll see you in the bottom league. |
Personally, I couldn't care less about forum votes. It's the Op that wants us all put into leagues/groups based on votes.
Strange idea, but if the forum votes for it, then I guess we go with it.
Think Phil/Gav will be opposed to all the extra work though. | |
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| TWTD Leagues on 16:25 - May 27 with 1292 views | Cafe_Newman |
| TWTD Leagues on 14:36 - May 27 by MK1 |
Personally, I couldn't care less about forum votes. It's the Op that wants us all put into leagues/groups based on votes.
Strange idea, but if the forum votes for it, then I guess we go with it.
Think Phil/Gav will be opposed to all the extra work though. |
There's not a cat in hell's chance this will happen.
I think the forum could do with a match day thread, an after match thread, speculation thread, and the like as seen on either sites. I know the old guard here don't generally want change but for those of us who are very sporadic visitors to the site, it's a pretty chaotic set up that does make navigation easy especially when you are trying to find an old post from another contributor.
I'm not especially precious about votes either but some people clearly are as I think that they see it as some sort of gauge of their worth/importance here.
I think it's worth displaying the time you've been a member here and the number of posts you've made, but little else. | | | |
| TWTD Leagues on 16:39 - May 27 with 1277 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| TWTD Leagues on 12:51 - May 27 by Pinewoodblue |
The platform is what people make of it.
Unfortunately far too many seem unable to scroll past posts that they know are likely to annoy them. |
Worse still, they have to post why it annoys them and then get further annoyed when their reply turns into an argument that they won't let lie themselves. |  |
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