JP - Agent 10:57 - Jul 9 with 4493 views | WolfieAtTheBack | After a dig about JP is by FAR his biggest client and possibly not as experienced as say CAA base and those agencies hence the Barca PR stunt. I would think it will be the biggest ever pay day for agent, will help them develop their other players so I assume they will push him where the dough is. This the game we are involved in now. |  | | |  |
JP - Agent on 11:58 - Jul 9 with 995 views | tractorboy1978 |
JP - Agent on 11:45 - Jul 9 by BloomBlue | Trouble is we all look at it with our Ipswich specs on. Everton have been in the Prem from the start, they avoided relegation last season even with point deductions. Everton to a non Town spec'ed player is a big draw. He might even look at the fact a flair player like Jack Harrison moved there I still think he will join us but to simply dismiss Everton as a basket case, when Town have been out of the Prem for 20 years is crazy. |
I don't dismiss Dyche at all, he's clearly a very good manager. But if I was a player of Philogene's ilk I would not be choosing to go and play for him. I'd be looking at what McKenna did with my mate Omari last season and going somewhere where I will be able to showcase my talents in a team set up for me to be a star. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 12:04 - Jul 9 with 943 views | davblue |
JP - Agent on 11:40 - Jul 9 by ReusersTown | But whilst he has done a very good job wherever he's been his style and approach isn't one that has showcased wingers or attacking talents at all. Through that prism it's clear that working under McKenna is likely to be a better move for him |
In theory yeah, but in reality if we go down with 20 points concede a load of goals and he doesn’t get much chance to showcase his ability then a move to Everton would be better. McKenna has only done it in league 1 and the championship. There’s no guarantee that style will work in the prem with inferior players. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 12:06 - Jul 9 with 936 views | itfcjoe |
JP - Agent on 11:42 - Jul 9 by ReusersTown | Who was the last winger / attacking talent to further their career with Dyche as their manager? |
Dwight McNeil at Burnley, Jack Harrison had a good season there last year |  |
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JP - Agent on 12:08 - Jul 9 with 912 views | davblue |
JP - Agent on 11:58 - Jul 9 by tractorboy1978 | I don't dismiss Dyche at all, he's clearly a very good manager. But if I was a player of Philogene's ilk I would not be choosing to go and play for him. I'd be looking at what McKenna did with my mate Omari last season and going somewhere where I will be able to showcase my talents in a team set up for me to be a star. |
In the championship. That’s not me dismissing what we done last year but Everton under Dyche won’t get relegated imo. Are we going to play so open this year, that’s still to be seen. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 12:32 - Jul 9 with 858 views | tractorboy1978 |
JP - Agent on 12:06 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe | Dwight McNeil at Burnley, Jack Harrison had a good season there last year |
Harrison had nowhere near the sort of season/impact as he had under Bielsa at Leeds though, which is probably a great case in point. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 12:38 - Jul 9 with 833 views | gordon | Think with this Philogene transfer the agent is generating loads of interest / stories to flush out buyers etc, but the big downside for him is that when he's got middling talents / players to try and get deals for, lots of people are going to remember his attitude and approach, and not bother with the hassle. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 12:40 - Jul 9 with 825 views | ReusersTown |
JP - Agent on 12:06 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe | Dwight McNeil at Burnley, Jack Harrison had a good season there last year |
To some degree those two do make my point. Whist a wand of a left foot and I like him as a player McNeil is very much in the solid workhorse mould of a left midfielder who has been bought by Dyche again at Everton rather than developed. Harrison I don't really think has improved at all just a decent player who was good enough for Everton. I appreciate a lot of what I've said is subjective, but bigger clubs are not coming in for either of those two at this point. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 16:43 - Jul 9 with 729 views | tetchris | Agents will try and get as much for themselves although their job is to get the best deal for their client. Probably wants a payment from both selling and buying club to do the deal and gets a % of JP’s earnings to boot. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
JP - Agent on 17:00 - Jul 9 with 700 views | Leaky |
JP - Agent on 12:04 - Jul 9 by davblue | In theory yeah, but in reality if we go down with 20 points concede a load of goals and he doesn’t get much chance to showcase his ability then a move to Everton would be better. McKenna has only done it in league 1 and the championship. There’s no guarantee that style will work in the prem with inferior players. |
KMcK has coached in the CL & EPL with Man Ure. Ok not as a manager in his own right. To suggest he's only done it in league1 & the championship is a bit disingenuous. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 17:03 - Jul 9 with 694 views | ReusersTown |
JP - Agent on 17:00 - Jul 9 by Leaky | KMcK has coached in the CL & EPL with Man Ure. Ok not as a manager in his own right. To suggest he's only done it in league1 & the championship is a bit disingenuous. |
Is it disingenuous, it seems pretty factual to me. Not that I agree with the comments overall sentiment. I think personally we could see a departure in style as we did in the Championship. Which is what makes McKenna such a great coach. |  | |  |
JP - Agent on 19:29 - Jul 9 with 637 views | davblue |
JP - Agent on 17:00 - Jul 9 by Leaky | KMcK has coached in the CL & EPL with Man Ure. Ok not as a manager in his own right. To suggest he's only done it in league1 & the championship is a bit disingenuous. |
Coaching and managing is entirely different. John Carver coached as Champions league level for Newcastle does that make him more credible than Dyche? McKenna will manage at the very top level, I’m sure of it but he’s still untested at the top level, so it’s not ‘disingenuous’. |  | |  |
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