| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive 12:53 - Aug 12 with 11345 views | giant_stow |
dangerous? Clever? Whatever? |  |
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 12:59 - Aug 28 with 2018 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 11:49 - Aug 28 by victorywilhappen |
The thing is there are no definite answers. We're talking about the information at hand and hopefully speculating about it neutrally for some perspective.
Any thoughts you have or have gleaned are very much welcome.
It seems a very fluid situation, so i'm not sure many opinions would be conclusivly wrong.
It does seem the aim of of getting Russia to redeploy troops has failed. Meaning there is a big chance things might start going badly. |
Things have been going very badly for quite some time - hence the Ukrainians getting themselves back on the news instead of those pesky Israelis. |  |
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:09 - Aug 28 with 1982 views | bluejacko |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 11:36 - Aug 28 by Cafe_Newman |
It's a great recommendation if you only want the pro western establishment view of the world as offered by Murdoch's other News Corp titles (The Sun, The Times, New York Post etc). |
Fair enough but you can’t tell whoever is being interviewed what they have to say! If it’s going tits up they have said so with no censorship. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:13 - Aug 28 with 1977 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 12:59 - Aug 28 by bluejacko |
It doesn’t seem like the main thrust has been affected so far but there have been troop movements 3 brigades have been moved from Ukraine to Kursk para,s and marines are some of them!pootin can’t ignore what’s going on so he will have to react.conscripts can only get you so far so contract troops will have to used from elsewhere!
There isn’t much risk of Ukraines troops getting surrounded and cut off they have the whole border to their south to withdraw over if it comes to it,and the orcs have yet to prove they can do manoeuvre warfare which they have not shown so far in this war to actually manage cutting anybody off. |
Overstretching on an advance without secure supply lines isn't great. The build-up of troops on the Belarus border could cross and spread left and right.
The frontline Ukraine troops are not happy in all quarters that so many elite troops have been sent on this mission leaving them as fodder as that front takes a pounding.
Don't think any Russian troops have been taken from the front line. Not sure there is a military goal or outcome with the incursion.
The Nuclear power station as a shield isn't the best move for anyone either. Best for the Russians to contain and break the supply route.
Things will happen in the next month before the cold sets in no doubt. It could change with a flip of a coin. Crazy times. |  | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:26 - Aug 28 with 1942 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:09 - Aug 28 by bluejacko |
Fair enough but you can’t tell whoever is being interviewed what they have to say! If it’s going tits up they have said so with no censorship. |
"If it’s going tits up they have said so with no censorship."
Have they? Have they said it's going tits up EVERY time it's gone tits up? And how do you, we or anyone else actually know? |  | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:51 - Aug 28 with 1904 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:26 - Aug 28 by Cafe_Newman |
"If it’s going tits up they have said so with no censorship."
Have they? Have they said it's going tits up EVERY time it's gone tits up? And how do you, we or anyone else actually know? |
Because even if you don’t trust western media, or western governments (which given your penchant for conspiracies and false flags I assume is the case), you have to remember there are substantial assets at stake for western companies. They are using non-governmental agencies and intelligence gathering companies for geopolitical risk assessment- what’s going on is widely monitored. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 14:29 - Aug 28 with 1862 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:51 - Aug 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Because even if you don’t trust western media, or western governments (which given your penchant for conspiracies and false flags I assume is the case), you have to remember there are substantial assets at stake for western companies. They are using non-governmental agencies and intelligence gathering companies for geopolitical risk assessment- what’s going on is widely monitored. |
A thought-Many of those companies are selling materials to enable a conflict. To enable support and trade the news has to be that those materials are being used well with western taxpayers money to keep the flow. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 14:46 - Aug 28 with 1811 views | bluejacko |
Russia has managed to advance 35km on a narrow front in Donetsk in 2 yrs suffering thousands of casualties with their tactics! Ukraine has taken 1300 sq Kms of Russia in three weeks and they are still slowly going as and when logistics are secure with the bridges cut to the east of their advance that will be another 300 sq Kms? taken,They also recaptured territories a couple of years ago with the same tactics they are using now. So what is it lose a field or two a day at high cost to the attacker or use fire and manoeuvre to take lots of land? Even if Russia gets to the city they ar3 going for how long will it take them to take it? Bakhmut and Advivka took nearly a year to achieve again with horrendous casualties! As harsh as it is that’s why generals get the big bucks do you fight the way the enemy want you to or do you take it to him? [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 15:05]
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 14:48 - Aug 28 with 1799 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 14:29 - Aug 28 by victorywilhappen |
A thought-Many of those companies are selling materials to enable a conflict. To enable support and trade the news has to be that those materials are being used well with western taxpayers money to keep the flow. |
I’m not taking about weapons companies, there is a whole world of trade outside arms, in fact it probably dwarfs the arms trade (particularly commodities ). Not sure why everyone is so determined to go down a rabbit hole.
Also these intelligence gathering agencies are third parties - their whole business is defunct if they are ‘messaging’ on behalf of clients. They have no interest in taxpayers. [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 14:58]
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 15:46 - Aug 28 with 1756 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 14:48 - Aug 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m not taking about weapons companies, there is a whole world of trade outside arms, in fact it probably dwarfs the arms trade (particularly commodities ). Not sure why everyone is so determined to go down a rabbit hole.
Also these intelligence gathering agencies are third parties - their whole business is defunct if they are ‘messaging’ on behalf of clients. They have no interest in taxpayers. [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 14:58]
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Government funding is in part taxpayer- yes? Then arms are financed by in part the taxpayer.
What industry is bigger than arms?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry
SIPRI further found that the combined revenues of the top 100 largest defense companies totalled $597 billion in 2022, with the five largest companies by revenue being Lockheed Martin, RTX, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and General Dynamics
The biggest importer is Ukraine.
Hardly a rabbit hole. Not sure what companies you are talking about. The construction ones post war? which need the arms to destroy before they can rebuild as per contracts?
All the time lives are being lost.
As in all conflicts, no one knows what is happening inside commanding heads. No one has released figures of the dead. Combat and civilian. Half a million or more are dead if not more. Not all on one side. [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 15:49]
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 17:17 - Aug 28 with 1658 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 15:46 - Aug 28 by victorywilhappen |
Government funding is in part taxpayer- yes? Then arms are financed by in part the taxpayer.
What industry is bigger than arms?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry
SIPRI further found that the combined revenues of the top 100 largest defense companies totalled $597 billion in 2022, with the five largest companies by revenue being Lockheed Martin, RTX, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and General Dynamics
The biggest importer is Ukraine.
Hardly a rabbit hole. Not sure what companies you are talking about. The construction ones post war? which need the arms to destroy before they can rebuild as per contracts?
All the time lives are being lost.
As in all conflicts, no one knows what is happening inside commanding heads. No one has released figures of the dead. Combat and civilian. Half a million or more are dead if not more. Not all on one side. [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 15:49]
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Nothing to do with arms, or government funding. Assume you aren’t aware but western firms have billions of pounds of pre-war assets in Ukraine. Some in the ‘lower risk’ west of Dniper, some trapped assets, and some reappropriated by Russia. The largest exports to the west are commodities and energy, grains, vehicle parts largely by western multinationals - pre war arms was an insignificant 5pc of trade with the EU. These firms are using intelligence agencies to provide risk assessment, all of which is apolitical.
There’s no sinister agenda, unless you think the west should stop supplying arms to a nation that’s begging for them in order to defend their sovereignty (against an unprovoked aggressor. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 17:57 - Aug 28 with 1609 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 13:51 - Aug 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Because even if you don’t trust western media, or western governments (which given your penchant for conspiracies and false flags I assume is the case), you have to remember there are substantial assets at stake for western companies. They are using non-governmental agencies and intelligence gathering companies for geopolitical risk assessment- what’s going on is widely monitored. |
I don't trust any corporate or state media irrespective of whether they are "western" or not. Furthermore, if I have a penchant for anything, it's not for "conspiracies and false flags", it's for trying to establish the most likely truth in any arena despite the jingoistic claims of the media from either side.
Alex Krainer makes some pretty sound comments in my opinion. Start at around the 9 minute mark for the meat of what he says:
https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/the-coming-collapse-of-britain | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 18:15 - Aug 28 with 1571 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 17:17 - Aug 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Nothing to do with arms, or government funding. Assume you aren’t aware but western firms have billions of pounds of pre-war assets in Ukraine. Some in the ‘lower risk’ west of Dniper, some trapped assets, and some reappropriated by Russia. The largest exports to the west are commodities and energy, grains, vehicle parts largely by western multinationals - pre war arms was an insignificant 5pc of trade with the EU. These firms are using intelligence agencies to provide risk assessment, all of which is apolitical.
There’s no sinister agenda, unless you think the west should stop supplying arms to a nation that’s begging for them in order to defend their sovereignty (against an unprovoked aggressor. |
If you read the thread it is hopefully clear it is about how and where the arms supplied are used and for whos benefit. And what is the motive of the cross border push into Russia.
You are talking about exports I was talking about imports. Grain/mining/energy v arms don't balance. The Western taxpayers are paying significantly.
Also a post-war landscape of rival factions and unaccounted arms -including cluster ammo does not make a viable landscape for business or as a potential EU member.
You haven't outlined your opinion on the OP from todays position and available intell'' | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 07:15 - Aug 29 with 1469 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 18:15 - Aug 28 by victorywilhappen |
If you read the thread it is hopefully clear it is about how and where the arms supplied are used and for whos benefit. And what is the motive of the cross border push into Russia.
You are talking about exports I was talking about imports. Grain/mining/energy v arms don't balance. The Western taxpayers are paying significantly.
Also a post-war landscape of rival factions and unaccounted arms -including cluster ammo does not make a viable landscape for business or as a potential EU member.
You haven't outlined your opinion on the OP from todays position and available intell'' |
“You are talking about exports I was talking about imports. Grain/mining/energy v arms don't balance. The Western taxpayers are paying significantly.”
No the trade figures are completely stacked against arms imports. The 600m industry you quoted is worldwide (assume you misunderstood rather than used a misleading number), of which Ukraine was less than 5pc last year. That’s dwarfed by the fact Western firms have an estimated $100bn of assets in Ukraine (including some repossessed by Russia), $40bn of annual pre-war trade with between Ukraine and the EU. Over $200bn of trapped assets in Russia itself. On Russia’s part they have spent half their liquid net wealth fund and have over $300bn in sanctions frozen assets. That’s before we take into account any macro economic damage. In fact, the only financial beneficiaries of this war are probably China, who are buying up below cost gas from Russia.
In terms of UK taxpayer contributions, they aren’t that material in my opinion- not enough to cover even 2 months of interest payments on our government debt, and a fraction of what was spent on furlough. We also don’t have much choice unless you want to let them collapse and leave Ukrainians to face summary executions, and forced Russification (as has been documented by UNHRW in Russian occupied territory). [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 7:20]
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:19 - Aug 29 with 1437 views | Kievthegreat |
Just to add a really important consideration when considering arms trade to Ukraine. The vast majority of equipment and stocks they receive are used*. They are, for the most part, given existing vehicles and missiles. They are then represented at replacement cost value, not actual value. The big driver of revenue for arms companies is actually replacement of last gen systems in NATO armed forces.
All the countries donating F16s for instance, will be replacing them with either newer version of F16s or next gen aircraft like the F35. It's partly because these countries want to help Ukraine, but it's also because these countries recognise that by donating and buying new equipment, they will either defeat Russia there, or they'll be much stronger should Putin try and extend into NATO territory after gobbling up Ukraine.
*The main things being supplied new from the factory is shells and some stocks of missiles. |  | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:27 - Aug 29 with 1407 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 07:15 - Aug 29 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“You are talking about exports I was talking about imports. Grain/mining/energy v arms don't balance. The Western taxpayers are paying significantly.”
No the trade figures are completely stacked against arms imports. The 600m industry you quoted is worldwide (assume you misunderstood rather than used a misleading number), of which Ukraine was less than 5pc last year. That’s dwarfed by the fact Western firms have an estimated $100bn of assets in Ukraine (including some repossessed by Russia), $40bn of annual pre-war trade with between Ukraine and the EU. Over $200bn of trapped assets in Russia itself. On Russia’s part they have spent half their liquid net wealth fund and have over $300bn in sanctions frozen assets. That’s before we take into account any macro economic damage. In fact, the only financial beneficiaries of this war are probably China, who are buying up below cost gas from Russia.
In terms of UK taxpayer contributions, they aren’t that material in my opinion- not enough to cover even 2 months of interest payments on our government debt, and a fraction of what was spent on furlough. We also don’t have much choice unless you want to let them collapse and leave Ukrainians to face summary executions, and forced Russification (as has been documented by UNHRW in Russian occupied territory). [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 7:20]
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You were presenting a strong argument for economics (maybe that's your gig) until...
'We also don’t have much choice unless you want to let them collapse and leave Ukrainians to face summary executions and forced Russification'
it's not what I or any person who has contributed to this thread so far has suggested. What the thread is about is a tactical choice and the benefits or not for all parties. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:34 - Aug 29 with 1387 views | Kievthegreat |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:27 - Aug 29 by victorywilhappen |
You were presenting a strong argument for economics (maybe that's your gig) until...
'We also don’t have much choice unless you want to let them collapse and leave Ukrainians to face summary executions and forced Russification'
it's not what I or any person who has contributed to this thread so far has suggested. What the thread is about is a tactical choice and the benefits or not for all parties. |
I think the summary would then be that it's 100% a tactical success, but it's strategic merit is still up in the air, but looks like it will only provide limited benefit as Russia simply has traded it's land for continued advances in Donetsk oblast. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:34 - Aug 29 with 1388 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:19 - Aug 29 by Kievthegreat |
Just to add a really important consideration when considering arms trade to Ukraine. The vast majority of equipment and stocks they receive are used*. They are, for the most part, given existing vehicles and missiles. They are then represented at replacement cost value, not actual value. The big driver of revenue for arms companies is actually replacement of last gen systems in NATO armed forces.
All the countries donating F16s for instance, will be replacing them with either newer version of F16s or next gen aircraft like the F35. It's partly because these countries want to help Ukraine, but it's also because these countries recognise that by donating and buying new equipment, they will either defeat Russia there, or they'll be much stronger should Putin try and extend into NATO territory after gobbling up Ukraine.
*The main things being supplied new from the factory is shells and some stocks of missiles. |
So the supply and use of old arms demands the restocking of new arms due to a reduced stockpile.
The creation and demand are higher than ever.
Maybe someone will suggest it is environmentally friendly to use up old stock for the purpose for which they were made. Arms greenwashing 2024? | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:10 - Aug 29 with 1333 views | Kievthegreat |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 08:34 - Aug 29 by victorywilhappen |
So the supply and use of old arms demands the restocking of new arms due to a reduced stockpile.
The creation and demand are higher than ever.
Maybe someone will suggest it is environmentally friendly to use up old stock for the purpose for which they were made. Arms greenwashing 2024? |
The demand is higher than it has been for decades, but it's higher because of Russia asserting that it is a threat to Europe in a way it's not done since the days of the USSR. It's not some conspiracy of arms suppliers. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:32 - Aug 29 with 1320 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:10 - Aug 29 by Kievthegreat |
The demand is higher than it has been for decades, but it's higher because of Russia asserting that it is a threat to Europe in a way it's not done since the days of the USSR. It's not some conspiracy of arms suppliers. |
'It's not some conspiracy of arms suppliers'
Business is business.
War is a business?
Would you believe conflicts in this age/or the past are not commodity-driven?
Ego is a close second. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:34 - Aug 29 with 1305 views | WeWereZombies |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:32 - Aug 29 by victorywilhappen |
'It's not some conspiracy of arms suppliers'
Business is business.
War is a business?
Would you believe conflicts in this age/or the past are not commodity-driven?
Ego is a close second. |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
'War Is a Racket is a speech and a 1935 short book by Smedley D. Butler, a retired United States Marine Corps major general and two-time Medal of Honor recipient. Based on his career military experience, Butler discusses how business interests commercially benefit from warfare.' [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 9:35]
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:41 - Aug 29 with 1270 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:34 - Aug 29 by WeWereZombies |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
'War Is a Racket is a speech and a 1935 short book by Smedley D. Butler, a retired United States Marine Corps major general and two-time Medal of Honor recipient. Based on his career military experience, Butler discusses how business interests commercially benefit from warfare.' [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 9:35]
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I also wonder how many of those who hurl emotive language and use derogatory language against discussions that question the blind onward to victory doctrine would volunteer their children to be cannon fodder.
Would they back their ideology with their support of their own children's conscription? | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 16:24 - Aug 29 with 1123 views | Kievthegreat |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 09:32 - Aug 29 by victorywilhappen |
'It's not some conspiracy of arms suppliers'
Business is business.
War is a business?
Would you believe conflicts in this age/or the past are not commodity-driven?
Ego is a close second. |
Commodity driven is very different to being driven by arms suppliers. Lots of wars in human history could be described as commodity driven.
Do you think the various kings of England went to war with France for over a hundred years because they believed they were preordained by God to rule and were the legitimate rulers of France? Or because France was up for grabs, along with all it's wealth and resources?
War between nations primarily driven by perceived National self interest, sometimes it's economic interests, sometimes security, sometimes decisions can be less rational because of the minds involved.
Russia sees strategic risks in a Ukraine that is not dependent on it and minded to join the west, both culturally and economically (especially worried about militarily I.e NATO). In it's desire to pull Ukraine closer by getting Yanokovich to pull out of the popular EU deal, it stretched too far and instead of stopping Ukraine falling out of it's orbit, it pushed it out, leading to the Maidan protests and subsequent revolution and collapse of pro-Russian sentiment in much of the country.
It then sought to salvage the situation and reclaim it's imperial possessions in Crimea and the Donbas, and aimed to reach places like Odessa but failed at the later. It likely saw this as a necessity to keep a naval base in Crimea. It's real goal was likely to create a land bridge from the start, but they failed.
The war, started in 2014, was not done for the interest of arms suppliers. It was from Russia's fears over Ukraine looking West not East. It was to secure it's strategic defence interests (plus likely some oil and gas in the sea of Azov). The wars continuation as far as Ukraine is concerned is existential. It's existence is on the line.
Will arms companies make money? Hand over fist. Do they want to make more? Well it's business 101. However one of the biggest issues we see is that supplies can't keep up with demand. The current situation of trickling supplies prolongs the war in a slow grinding stalemate. Far better would be to arm Ukraine faster and harder to try and achieve a victory (likely not total, but stable). Maybe that's the conspiracy then? Arms companies wanting to prolong the war by being just slow enough to drag it on? | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 17:32 - Aug 29 with 1066 views | victorywilhappen |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 16:24 - Aug 29 by Kievthegreat |
Commodity driven is very different to being driven by arms suppliers. Lots of wars in human history could be described as commodity driven.
Do you think the various kings of England went to war with France for over a hundred years because they believed they were preordained by God to rule and were the legitimate rulers of France? Or because France was up for grabs, along with all it's wealth and resources?
War between nations primarily driven by perceived National self interest, sometimes it's economic interests, sometimes security, sometimes decisions can be less rational because of the minds involved.
Russia sees strategic risks in a Ukraine that is not dependent on it and minded to join the west, both culturally and economically (especially worried about militarily I.e NATO). In it's desire to pull Ukraine closer by getting Yanokovich to pull out of the popular EU deal, it stretched too far and instead of stopping Ukraine falling out of it's orbit, it pushed it out, leading to the Maidan protests and subsequent revolution and collapse of pro-Russian sentiment in much of the country.
It then sought to salvage the situation and reclaim it's imperial possessions in Crimea and the Donbas, and aimed to reach places like Odessa but failed at the later. It likely saw this as a necessity to keep a naval base in Crimea. It's real goal was likely to create a land bridge from the start, but they failed.
The war, started in 2014, was not done for the interest of arms suppliers. It was from Russia's fears over Ukraine looking West not East. It was to secure it's strategic defence interests (plus likely some oil and gas in the sea of Azov). The wars continuation as far as Ukraine is concerned is existential. It's existence is on the line.
Will arms companies make money? Hand over fist. Do they want to make more? Well it's business 101. However one of the biggest issues we see is that supplies can't keep up with demand. The current situation of trickling supplies prolongs the war in a slow grinding stalemate. Far better would be to arm Ukraine faster and harder to try and achieve a victory (likely not total, but stable). Maybe that's the conspiracy then? Arms companies wanting to prolong the war by being just slow enough to drag it on? |
'War between nations primarily driven by perceived National self interest, sometimes it's economic interests, sometimes security, sometimes decisions can be less rational because of the minds involved.' = commodities & egos + Religion...or a mash-up of all three then?
There are some big winners. Not the squaddies or civvies on the ground on both sides.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68136840
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/14/hedge-funds-profit-ukraine-war-foo
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/19/worlds-largest-oil-companies-ha
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-war-orders-starting-b
EDIT- 'Far better would be to arm Ukraine faster and harder to try and achieve a victory ' You possibly overlook training and getting the troops to operate. That is a major problem as many have sussed the situation or don't want to fight. [Post edited 29 Aug 2024 17:55]
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| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 19:01 - Aug 29 with 998 views | Kievthegreat |
Ukraine has manpower issues and it's why hopes of a total victory where they reclaim the Crimea are as farfetched as Russian hopes of total victory are.
However some of the biggest constraints Ukraine has are artificial or supply based. Ukraine is perfectly capable of using Storm Shadow, but we limit where they can. Same with ATACMs. Ukraine can use them, but restraints on using them inside Russia allows Putin to move elements out of the range of permitted systems.
The other big issue is artillery shells. Again training or manpower is not the issue. The issue is rationing shells. Although ironically this is a failure of the arms industry by not having anywhere near enough manufacturing capacity. | | | |
| Just wondering what everyone makes of Ukraine's offensive on 19:14 - Aug 29 with 980 views | Kievthegreat |
With regards Nord Stream, I sincerely hope this is true:
Supposedly German asked Poland to arrest the suspect and instead Poland warned him about Germany's plans. | | | |
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