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I suppose a medical for a player coming in on a loan could be slightly different from a medical on a player the club has agreed to pay a large fee for ? Anyone expert on this .
Ben Foster did a really interesting piece on his podcast about medicals. It seems you don't "pass" or "fail" them. Rather it's an assessment of your overall health/injury status and potential, and then the buying Club makes an informed position based on the findings. A "failed" medical essentially means "this is too much risk for us to take for £XXm".
So in this case, Brentford may have found something to make them think "we're not willing to be on the hook to buy this guy for £20m next year". But a club would be willing to take a bit more risk on an injury record / finding for a player coming in on loan, which is why we may well be willing to pick this guy up and Brentford not.
Ben Foster did a really interesting piece on his podcast about medicals. It seems you don't "pass" or "fail" them. Rather it's an assessment of your overall health/injury status and potential, and then the buying Club makes an informed position based on the findings. A "failed" medical essentially means "this is too much risk for us to take for £XXm".
So in this case, Brentford may have found something to make them think "we're not willing to be on the hook to buy this guy for £20m next year". But a club would be willing to take a bit more risk on an injury record / finding for a player coming in on loan, which is why we may well be willing to pick this guy up and Brentford not.
In that case then surely Brentford would still try and do the standard loan as we are?
Ben Foster did a really interesting piece on his podcast about medicals. It seems you don't "pass" or "fail" them. Rather it's an assessment of your overall health/injury status and potential, and then the buying Club makes an informed position based on the findings. A "failed" medical essentially means "this is too much risk for us to take for £XXm".
So in this case, Brentford may have found something to make them think "we're not willing to be on the hook to buy this guy for £20m next year". But a club would be willing to take a bit more risk on an injury record / finding for a player coming in on loan, which is why we may well be willing to pick this guy up and Brentford not.
A bit close to home - on the "Sunday Stroll" episode with Matt Byard he also talks a bit about how it works at Ipswich which is similar to how you've described it here.
Ben Foster did a really interesting piece on his podcast about medicals. It seems you don't "pass" or "fail" them. Rather it's an assessment of your overall health/injury status and potential, and then the buying Club makes an informed position based on the findings. A "failed" medical essentially means "this is too much risk for us to take for £XXm".
So in this case, Brentford may have found something to make them think "we're not willing to be on the hook to buy this guy for £20m next year". But a club would be willing to take a bit more risk on an injury record / finding for a player coming in on loan, which is why we may well be willing to pick this guy up and Brentford not.
Indeed, all about risk. For example, I was told some years afterwards, that Shola Ameobi's medical showed he could probably play around 25 games in a season due to a long-standing injury. At the time, Marcus Evans didn't want to take a player in that position, however, the person who told me said that after he'd been in the game a bit longer, he probably would have committed to doing that deal.
Indeed, all about risk. For example, I was told some years afterwards, that Shola Ameobi's medical showed he could probably play around 25 games in a season due to a long-standing injury. At the time, Marcus Evans didn't want to take a player in that position, however, the person who told me said that after he'd been in the game a bit longer, he probably would have committed to doing that deal.
After he'd be in the game a bit longer, he wouldn't have paid that fee!