| What do people want? 00:13 - Oct 20 with 7768 views | WonnorCickhamm |
Lots of comments today re: Championship is more fun, better league etc.
Kind of agree.
But do people want us to be successful in that league but not too successful so we don’t go up?
Genuine question. |  |
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| What do people want? on 12:41 - Oct 21 with 591 views | Radlett_blue |
| What do people want? on 08:56 - Oct 21 by BlueNomad |
Cut out mistakes and we will be far more competitive. Three at Man City, one against Villa, two at Wham and against Everton. All these cost us dearly, setting us back and increasing the momentum of the opposition.
All those mistakes were basic, not a case of being ripped apart. |
Our players make more mistakes because they're not as good. And at this level, those mistakes are far more likely to be punished. |  |
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| What do people want? on 12:47 - Oct 21 with 569 views | Ryorry |
| What do people want? on 12:29 - Oct 21 by VanDusen |
And that is what the problem is - dream on if you think we have any hope of ever winning anything again as things stand. It's just not possible in the modern era. This is why you need to remove the 'brands' as they have created a glass ceiling where they monopolise every trophy, every European place. And with Financial "Fair Play" they've stopped anyone even being able to find a benefactor to try and bridge this gap.
It's simply not like competing with like anymore. What is the point of us playing Arsenal, Man City or Man United. Even if we get the odd win you can't sustain it over the course of a season and you are destined to be patronised as you should be grateful to finish 14th, 15th whatever and possibly get one season where you get a 9th. I understand younger fans haven't been here before and want to get excited, but for those of us who have grown up with a league that was genuinely competitive this is really really underwhelming. And it's a Europe-wide problem - pretty much all leagues are now facing the problem of a handful of big brands with a global following monopolising the game supported by a cadre of cannon-fodder who are literally just there to make up the numbers.
To those pointing to Leicester winning, that was nearly ten years ago now, and the gap is way way bigger - don't expect the big clubs to ever let that happen again. Plus they pretty much went bust doing so and are incredibly lucky to have found a loophole that's allowed them not to end up wallowing at the bottom end of the Championship right now or at the very least facing a penalty this season that would guarantee them back there next... |
“it's a Europe-wide problem - pretty much all leagues are now facing the problem of a handful of big brands with a global following monopolising the game”.
And that’s not just a problem in football, sadly it’s a big problem in other areas of life too. Try finding an independent veterinary practice that hasn’t been swallowed up by a huge franchised corporation with a cartel on prices and products, eg. |  |
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| What do people want? on 12:48 - Oct 21 with 563 views | Radlett_blue |
| What do people want? on 19:18 - Oct 20 by VanDusen |
This is why other countries - particularly the US - put in dramatically heavy rules and regulations to ensure there is competition. I've taken to watching a lot more baseball than the Premier League, as despite there being the same amount of money they haven't had consecutive winners since 2000. Even though you have some clubs with immensely more fans and money they can't spend it all on players or block others spending more than them - it makes for a far more exciting sporting spectacle, and even when - as looks likely this season - the two richest of them all, the Yankees and the Dodgers, make the World Series, it's a rare one-off rather than the interminably boring Man City v Liverpool, Arsenal or Man U we get year on year on year. |
The US-style "closed shop" works very well in terms of producing a competitive league, rather than the same teams at the top every year. It helps that hardly anyone outside the USA plays American Football or baseball.
That's why I still support the idea of a European Super League, but with the proviso that the members are no longer allowed to play in their own domestic leagues. They can have a "product" where the global TV rights are worth a fortune & naturally they attract the best players.
Then the English Football League can return to being a properly competitive entity, rather than having clubs with dubiously rich foreign owners all losing money in a desperate attempt to join the elite. | |
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| What do people want? on 13:04 - Oct 21 with 516 views | Ryorry |
| What do people want? on 12:48 - Oct 21 by Radlett_blue |
The US-style "closed shop" works very well in terms of producing a competitive league, rather than the same teams at the top every year. It helps that hardly anyone outside the USA plays American Football or baseball.
That's why I still support the idea of a European Super League, but with the proviso that the members are no longer allowed to play in their own domestic leagues. They can have a "product" where the global TV rights are worth a fortune & naturally they attract the best players.
Then the English Football League can return to being a properly competitive entity, rather than having clubs with dubiously rich foreign owners all losing money in a desperate attempt to join the elite. |
I think that’s what galls the most - seriously dodgy owners whose wealth is from worrying sources is so enormous that they can afford to lose a pile every season to buy success. Started by Abramowitch wasn’t it? with the latest being Newcastle. FA not doing due diligence. Football’s so tainted now. Makes me sick. | |
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| What do people want? on 13:05 - Oct 21 with 511 views | noggin |
| What do people want? on 13:04 - Oct 21 by Ryorry |
I think that’s what galls the most - seriously dodgy owners whose wealth is from worrying sources is so enormous that they can afford to lose a pile every season to buy success. Started by Abramowitch wasn’t it? with the latest being Newcastle. FA not doing due diligence. Football’s so tainted now. Makes me sick. |
Think it started with Blackburn, although obviously at a completely different level. |  |
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| What do people want? on 13:11 - Oct 21 with 480 views | baxterbasics |
Actually in the shorter to medium I would simply be happy with three points, now and then. Not spread over three games either. |  |
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| What do people want? on 16:49 - Oct 21 with 395 views | Radlett_blue |
| What do people want? on 13:05 - Oct 21 by noggin |
Think it started with Blackburn, although obviously at a completely different level. |
Yes, Jack Walker (a proper local man made good) effectively bought the PL title for Blackburn, while he also invested £20m (then a considerable sum) in the ground.
Yes, Abramovich was the real game changer & now the PL is such a big business that it attracted Middle Eastern potentates, American consortiums (one of which owns Town) & the game is almost unrecognisable. I think the German pro football model is far superior, but we can't put the genie back in the bottle (unless a closed Super League is formed). | |
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