VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. 08:06 - Nov 7 with 1530 views | JoHnNnY | Subjectivity shouldn’t come into football if rules and how they are applied are clear, with technology, with slow motion replays, there’s no excuse to have anything but an objective outcome. Therefore the fault is with the guidelines they use - it’s sh@t, muddy, inconsistent… it DOES seem to favour the “big” players and clubs, or is it just the players with the bigger mouths that contest everything?…. This also shows big club favouritism, I’m sure if Haaland protests to the ref, he’s not carded every time, anyone at Ipswich does it, instant yellow isn’t it unless it’s the Captain - which I’m sure is the rule?… correct me if I’m wrong. I swear Clarkes 2nd yellow was swayed by the finger wagging after the tackle (which I may add, was a clean good one) Ashton and McKenna should be vocal and come out fighting to highlight EVERY injustice, take the ban’s, the fines…. Go down defending injustice, get it into the big media, that may again force change, or even talk about it again. I say scrap VAR, corrupt, expensive outlay for lesser rich clubs to be forced into when it bears NO benefit. [Post edited 7 Nov 2024 8:31]
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 12:25 - Nov 7 with 1291 views | JoHnNnY |
Ok. I see your point. But that’s where it’s all wrong then. Shouldn’t be “guidelines”, should be black and white rules, there’s no argument or confusion of the laws. Failing that, the individuals that want to ref at the highest levels should be scored better on their “performances”. In my mind. A good ref is barely noticeable, just keep order in a straightforward manner and not try and be the “superstar” on the pitch. It’s not about, and should NEVER be about them. |  |
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 12:35 - Nov 7 with 1265 views | ElephantintheRoom | Mummy will get you some more toys - but in the meantime would you have another tantrum if somebody pointed out that football is a game governed by subjective laws played by mercenaries who cheat non stop? |  |
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 13:50 - Nov 7 with 1213 views | Plums |
VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 12:25 - Nov 7 by JoHnNnY | Ok. I see your point. But that’s where it’s all wrong then. Shouldn’t be “guidelines”, should be black and white rules, there’s no argument or confusion of the laws. Failing that, the individuals that want to ref at the highest levels should be scored better on their “performances”. In my mind. A good ref is barely noticeable, just keep order in a straightforward manner and not try and be the “superstar” on the pitch. It’s not about, and should NEVER be about them. |
From what I have seen, the scoring of referees and their assistants in the professional game is absolutely brutal. Videos of their matches are clipped, peer reviewed, league tables of performances are publicly shared in their internal systems and they are evaluated constantly. In addition, they are scrutinised by managers, fans and pundits. Their integrity is questioned on a daily basis and all whilst getting 96% of decisions correct. Most of us simply wouldn't put up with that in our working lives but let's keep trotting out the nonsense. If you're this upset, I suggest you get yourself on an FA course and have a go and then try progressing through the ranks. BTW, you'll need a max 16% body fat and the mindset of and ability to keep up with professional athletes at full tilt. Go put your ideas into practice. [Post edited 7 Nov 2024 16:20]
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 17:20 - Nov 7 with 1121 views | JoHnNnY |
VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 13:50 - Nov 7 by Plums | From what I have seen, the scoring of referees and their assistants in the professional game is absolutely brutal. Videos of their matches are clipped, peer reviewed, league tables of performances are publicly shared in their internal systems and they are evaluated constantly. In addition, they are scrutinised by managers, fans and pundits. Their integrity is questioned on a daily basis and all whilst getting 96% of decisions correct. Most of us simply wouldn't put up with that in our working lives but let's keep trotting out the nonsense. If you're this upset, I suggest you get yourself on an FA course and have a go and then try progressing through the ranks. BTW, you'll need a max 16% body fat and the mindset of and ability to keep up with professional athletes at full tilt. Go put your ideas into practice. [Post edited 7 Nov 2024 16:20]
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 17:25 - Nov 7 with 1114 views | JoHnNnY |
VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 12:35 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom | Mummy will get you some more toys - but in the meantime would you have another tantrum if somebody pointed out that football is a game governed by subjective laws played by mercenaries who cheat non stop? |
I don’t have a Mummy, being in my 50’s I don’t need toys…. Just a grown up conversation which you probably don’t want, just sling abuse at your own fanbase. 🤯 Your last line is sort of my point, it shouldn’t be that easy to favour one side and look to be “cheating”. Anyway, Whatever. |  |
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 17:58 - Nov 7 with 1088 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 12:25 - Nov 7 by JoHnNnY | Ok. I see your point. But that’s where it’s all wrong then. Shouldn’t be “guidelines”, should be black and white rules, there’s no argument or confusion of the laws. Failing that, the individuals that want to ref at the highest levels should be scored better on their “performances”. In my mind. A good ref is barely noticeable, just keep order in a straightforward manner and not try and be the “superstar” on the pitch. It’s not about, and should NEVER be about them. |
I don't think it is possible for there to be no grey areas in the rules. Someone has to decided whether a challenge is a foul or just a strong challenge. If you made it a non-contact sport you would change the game completely but there would still then be instances of did he get the ball or the man first? Was there real contact on the ball or not? Etc. I think the biggest issue is that VAR does not seem to be applied consistently nor fairly and, as such, seems to only reinforce bias instead of working to reduce error. |  |
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 21:37 - Nov 7 with 1000 views | Plums |
VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 17:20 - Nov 7 by JoHnNnY | I don’t wanna be a ref. |
Fair enough. Have you got any thoughts on how they should be evaluated? Given what I've explained to you about what actually goes on? |  |
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VAR - NO excuses to get it wrong. on 13:06 - Nov 8 with 751 views | Blue_In_Boston | Always favours the biggest clubs? Liverpool goal disallowed despite being a mile onside says otherwise. Every fan of every club thinks they are hard done by. A week has passed, let's get over it. |  | |  |
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