| Our right wing back problem 15:38 - Jan 20 with 3648 views | GlasgowBlue |
Ben Johnson has been very poor imo. We try Wes Burns as a more attacking wing back option. The one player we haven't started in that position is Harry Clarke. All of his starts have been at right back in a 4 rather than the attacking wing back.
As he started his career as a more attacking player would it be worth giving him a try in that role? I appreciate that KM has suggested that he may e available to loan but our right side is clearly our weak spot. |  |
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| Our right wing back problem on 19:21 - Jan 20 with 604 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Our right wing back problem on 18:29 - Jan 20 by DJR |
I thought Johnson was one of our better performers last night, and I am not sure that some of the criticism he has previously received is totally justfied.
The issues for me last night appeared to be more in the organisation of the defence, and perhaps it was just to radical to make two changes to a back three that had done well, as well as changing O'Shea's position.
For what is worth, I didn't think O'Shea marshalled the defence as well as Wolfy, and I can't say I was especially impressed by Godfrey.
Having said this, our players were up against world class players who were better than them, so perhaps it's difficult to criticise anyone, Delap being the only one of our players who showed that he might have the ability to play for a team such as City. [Post edited 20 Jan 18:32]
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Really? Culpable for the first three goals that killed the game by half time. [Post edited 20 Jan 19:59]
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| Our right wing back problem on 20:09 - Jan 20 with 552 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Our right wing back problem on 17:50 - Jan 20 by pointofblue |
Really necessary? |
Ffs....some people need to take life less seriously!
It's just playing with words and for the sake of a hyphen or if the problem was at left wing-back then there's nothing to work with. [Post edited 20 Jan 20:17]
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| Our right wing back problem on 20:12 - Jan 20 with 536 views | HighgateBlue |
| Our right wing back problem on 16:16 - Jan 20 by itfcjoe |
I don't really get the role Johnson is here to play, or was signed to?
Our RB is generally a more defensively solid guy who can move over into a back 3 when we attack.
Our RW is a hard worker but with attacking flair who can be an attacking weapon first and foremost but is solid and hard working going the other way
Johnson doesn't seem to suit either role for me. Too weak to be a RB, not got enough about him to be a RW and whilst has put in some ok performances, generally Wes Burns has been better in that role and we signed Ogbene to play there (and are chasing Doak).
He strikes me as a versatile misstep in the market if we want to have that role contributing at both ends of the pitch |
Maybe the idea was to replicate what Leif does on the left, so that we are symmetrical, rather than this typewriter set up of shifting across (which I have always quite liked tbh, even back when JD played the RB role).
Yes, I tend to agree. Johnson seems a bit of a half way house.
Doak would be exciting indeed. |  | | |
| Our right wing back problem on 20:16 - Jan 20 with 523 views | pointofblue |
| Our right wing back problem on 20:09 - Jan 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Ffs....some people need to take life less seriously!
It's just playing with words and for the sake of a hyphen or if the problem was at left wing-back then there's nothing to work with. [Post edited 20 Jan 20:17]
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Think everyone's a bit sensitive after yesterday. |  |
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| Our right wing back problem on 20:19 - Jan 20 with 518 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Our right wing back problem on 20:16 - Jan 20 by pointofblue |
Think everyone's a bit sensitive after yesterday. |
That was just a tad ridiculous too! | |
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| Our right wing back problem on 20:19 - Jan 20 with 520 views | HighgateBlue |
| Our right wing back problem on 16:14 - Jan 20 by BseaBlue |
Now Axel is back and gives us a bit more solidity in that right hand side, do we potentially see a change back to three attackers behind Delap? Omari in the ten with Philogene on the right and then one of Sammie/Broady/Clarke on the left. |
Yes, I think this is a really interesting option. I know we didn't succeed against Forest, but most teams have fallen into that category this season. We had Axel on the right, with three men behind Delap: Hutch, Chappers and SS. I wonder whether we dare try the same with the three that you suggest. At least when we're chasing the game.
I don't really buy the idea that Axel only works on the right when we play a rigid 4 at the back. Partly because we are never that rigid, but also because I think he is capable of getting forward, and has enough strength, pace and workrate to get back. He's not Leif going forward, but I think his performances have earned him the right to slot back into the side when he's sufficiently fit. O'Shea on the right worked. There's no reason why O'Shea couldn't slide across and Axel start in that role, in a number of different formations/set ups. | | | |
| Our right wing back problem on 20:54 - Jan 20 with 472 views | DavoIPB |
Not a problem now Axel is back. Axel will play right sides CB and Godfrey will play in front of him. He was quick on Sunday and was good when able to get forward. He has only played one game all season so defensively Godfrey would have been a bit rusty. | | | |
| Our right wing back problem on 21:03 - Jan 20 with 454 views | DJR |
| Our right wing back problem on 19:21 - Jan 20 by GlasgowBlue |
Really? Culpable for the first three goals that killed the game by half time. [Post edited 20 Jan 19:59]
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One of the joys of football is different opinions and, in my view, pinning the blame on Johnson for the three goals is not justified. |  | | |
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| Our right wing back problem on 21:06 - Jan 20 with 441 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Our right wing back problem on 21:03 - Jan 20 by DJR |
One of the joys of football is different opinions and, in my view, pinning the blame on Johnson for the three goals is not justified. |
The benefit of the game being on Sky was that showed the goals several times. So I watched them three or four times and how we defended them. I posted this yesterday.
First goal. Why was Johnson in the box with the centre backs and not staying close to Doku who was in acres of space? We are already playing a hybrid system where the right back, Godfrey, tucks in with the centre backs which means the right wing back, Johnson, should be looking after Doku.
Second goal. Johnson not tight enough to Doku and is slow to react to the pass to Doku. Can’t blame Godfrey who was tight to the player he was looking after, De Bruyne.
Third goal: Godfrey heads away a ball intended for Doku, O’shea not strong enough when the header fals between him and a City player and is eased off the ball to easily. Johnson stands watching leaving Godfrey to mark two players in Doku and De Bruyne. Johnson now too far up the pitch and he literally jogs back. Even Morsy is running back faster than Johnson and gains about 5 yards on him. Johnson then basically gives up running. | |
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| Our right wing back problem on 21:14 - Jan 20 with 398 views | DJR |
| Our right wing back problem on 21:06 - Jan 20 by GlasgowBlue |
The benefit of the game being on Sky was that showed the goals several times. So I watched them three or four times and how we defended them. I posted this yesterday.
First goal. Why was Johnson in the box with the centre backs and not staying close to Doku who was in acres of space? We are already playing a hybrid system where the right back, Godfrey, tucks in with the centre backs which means the right wing back, Johnson, should be looking after Doku.
Second goal. Johnson not tight enough to Doku and is slow to react to the pass to Doku. Can’t blame Godfrey who was tight to the player he was looking after, De Bruyne.
Third goal: Godfrey heads away a ball intended for Doku, O’shea not strong enough when the header fals between him and a City player and is eased off the ball to easily. Johnson stands watching leaving Godfrey to mark two players in Doku and De Bruyne. Johnson now too far up the pitch and he literally jogs back. Even Morsy is running back faster than Johnson and gains about 5 yards on him. Johnson then basically gives up running. |
Yes, I saw your comment, and didn't comment at the time but I have also seen the goals twice on the Sky highlights, once after your original comment, and the second time after your response to me.
I still remain to be convinced by what you say but I am not saying I am right. [Post edited 20 Jan 21:15]
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