| Walton vs Muric 11:47 - Jan 21 with 3279 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
I don't understand all of the upset about this topic. Muric had a good run in the team and while he made some very good saves and had some good games it was decided on balance that a change was needed. Walton has equally played well in some games, made some good saves.. and has also made mistakes in his games. Both keepers have won us important points this season, but they both have different strengths and weaknesses. Ultimately they have both been at the mercy of mistakes made further up the pitch as well. Credit to them both, and especially to Walton for coming back in after a season of being second choice and playing as well as he has at a much higher level.
I do maintain that had Walton not been clattered on Thursday against Brighton we'd have probably won a point. As for Sunday, we played a system that totally exposed our right flank. Neither loss was down to issues purely with our choice of goalkeeper. In both games, we were overly reliant on a slow midfield and Delap up top having to chase after everything, which does not work as he's not going to be as big a goal threat if he's having to make up 99% of the work for the team in those areas, and frankly, the service he gets is very poor at times.
I do not see the harm in having two good goalkeepers who can be used interchangeably with different strengths, it certainly worked for us in the past with Forrest/Baker, Forrest/Wright, and in more recent years Bart/Gerken.
Let's have some balance on this one. [Post edited 21 Jan 11:47]
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| Walton vs Muric on 14:08 - Jan 21 with 616 views | weepingx2018 |
| Walton vs Muric on 12:14 - Jan 21 by portmanking |
I'm gutted we didn't push the boat out and pay the £18m quoted for Kelleher at Liverpool, personally. |
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| Walton vs Muric on 14:27 - Jan 21 with 585 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Walton vs Muric on 14:04 - Jan 21 by billlm |
Muric will be back in for the saints game if not before, |
People were saying he was nailed on to start against City too. Walton didn't do too much wrong in either of the last two games though. | |
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| Walton vs Muric on 14:35 - Jan 21 with 568 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Walton vs Muric on 13:16 - Jan 21 by Parky |
Not sure either of them are good enough to be honest, but both have different strengths. I think the defence looks more comfortable with Walton, but Muric is certainly better at claiming more and coming off his line.
I don’t think chopping and changing keeper is helpful for their own confidence, but also for the defence playing infront of them.
If I had to pick, think I’d edge with Muric purely because he’s better at claiming crosses and high balls into the box which takes the sting out of the game. Don’t think he’s played in our slightly tweaked new system either, so worth a go.
The problem we have is some fans are just waiting for a mistake to be able to say ‘I told you he was shǐt’, which ultimately doesn’t help. |
This.
Sometimes taking the sting out of the game is vital to get on the front-foot. Muric is better at that part of the game.
His errors leading to goals are his Achilles Heel and it needs to be remedied, asap, but I edge with Muric on the whole.
What I hate is the Team Walton/Team Muric polarisation that happens when certain fans use hyperbole like "Muric is s**t". It forces others into having to over defend him.and seem like they are overlooking his weaknesses.
Most of us know they both have their strengths and weaknesses but we don't resort to calling one or the other of our team's goalkeepers "s**t". It's childish and unnecessary. [Post edited 21 Jan 14:38]
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| Walton vs Muric on 14:58 - Jan 21 with 536 views | bsw72 |
All keepers are making more mistakes as a result of this desire to play out from the back which has become fashionable over the last few years. A goalkeeper is such a specialized position that now expecting them to play outfield as well as a defender seems unfair - but that is the standards we now deem this usual.
Also worth noting that the more that a keeper is involved in the game, the more mistakes that they will make. Doesn't mean that one keeper is necessarily worse than another, just that due to the law of averages they may also make more mistakes - but likewise will also be making more saves, catches etc.
Trouble is fans seem to love a scape goat. [Post edited 21 Jan 14:59]
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| Walton vs Muric on 15:12 - Jan 21 with 517 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Walton vs Muric on 11:50 - Jan 21 by Radlett_blue |
Fair points, but I don;t think it's generally helpful to keep changing keeper, although McKenna doesn't seem to do it on the basis of 1 bad mistake. Muric as a better shot stopper & claims the ball slightly better, but he gives me the hebby-jeebies every time he has the ball at his feet & his long kicking is generally poor (possibly injury related). I still recall when GB kept swapping Marshall & Sereni & I think it affected both players' confidence. |
Price v Supple was an issue too from memory? Under Jim? |  |
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| Walton vs Muric on 15:18 - Jan 21 with 507 views | billlm |
| Walton vs Muric on 14:27 - Jan 21 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
People were saying he was nailed on to start against City too. Walton didn't do too much wrong in either of the last two games though. |
He was culpable for Brighton's two, first he should deffinatly save, one against city that squirmed under him again easy save,
Il give him the haaland one good save, |  | | |
| Walton vs Muric on 15:18 - Jan 21 with 507 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Walton vs Muric on 14:35 - Jan 21 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
This.
Sometimes taking the sting out of the game is vital to get on the front-foot. Muric is better at that part of the game.
His errors leading to goals are his Achilles Heel and it needs to be remedied, asap, but I edge with Muric on the whole.
What I hate is the Team Walton/Team Muric polarisation that happens when certain fans use hyperbole like "Muric is s**t". It forces others into having to over defend him.and seem like they are overlooking his weaknesses.
Most of us know they both have their strengths and weaknesses but we don't resort to calling one or the other of our team's goalkeepers "s**t". It's childish and unnecessary. [Post edited 21 Jan 14:38]
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Neither keeper is sh t though. They have their strengths, as well as their weaknesses. The real problem is not the keeper, it's our defense's lack of cohesiveness at times, it's the fact we have two slower players in the middle of the park and we're unable to create anything significant using our width and we have a lone man up top doing too much work and getting little service. Until we fix those elements the goalkeeping part is just a small piece of the puzzle.
It's a lack of confidence, too many touches, too many negative balls, reliance on a single player, and a lack of creativity that is costing us. I would hope the manager and coaches have seen that, but we still have not really corrected it, especially how poor we are down the right. | |
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| Walton vs Muric on 15:19 - Jan 21 with 503 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Walton vs Muric on 15:18 - Jan 21 by billlm |
He was culpable for Brighton's two, first he should deffinatly save, one against city that squirmed under him again easy save,
Il give him the haaland one good save, |
He was absolutely obliterated not long before that first goal, that's why. | |
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| Walton vs Muric on 15:30 - Jan 21 with 462 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Walton vs Muric on 15:19 - Jan 21 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
He was absolutely obliterated not long before that first goal, that's why. |
Objection ma'lord. Speculation. | |
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| Walton vs Muric on 15:33 - Jan 21 with 457 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Walton vs Muric on 14:58 - Jan 21 by bsw72 |
All keepers are making more mistakes as a result of this desire to play out from the back which has become fashionable over the last few years. A goalkeeper is such a specialized position that now expecting them to play outfield as well as a defender seems unfair - but that is the standards we now deem this usual.
Also worth noting that the more that a keeper is involved in the game, the more mistakes that they will make. Doesn't mean that one keeper is necessarily worse than another, just that due to the law of averages they may also make more mistakes - but likewise will also be making more saves, catches etc.
Trouble is fans seem to love a scape goat. [Post edited 21 Jan 14:59]
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Yep, its a hiding to nothing for a GK tyring to play out from the back for one of the weakest teams in the league. [Post edited 21 Jan 15:33]
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