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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy 08:05 - Apr 27 with 1435 views

It has enabled some small clubs to remain in the Premier league who previously for most of their existence have been irrelevant

I am talking the likes of clubs below

Brentford
Fulham
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace

None of these clubs have won a major trophy

We are only 1 of 10 clubs to have won a League title Fa cup and a major European trophy

6 of the above have been in the Premier league since its existence yet we have hardly played in the
Premier league.

We need to establish quickly with the money available or I fear we could become a yo-yo club

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:15 - Apr 27 with 1372 views

Herbivore

Six of the above four clubs? All four of which are relatively recently established as Prem sides rather than having been in it since the start of its existence?

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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:19 - Apr 27 with 1357 views

onceablue

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:15 - Apr 27 by Herbivore
Six of the above four clubs? All four of which are relatively recently established as Prem sides rather than having been in it since the start of its existence?

No 6 of the 10 clubs to have won all 3 honours

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:21 - Apr 27 with 1342 views

Herbivore

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:19 - Apr 27 by onceablue
No 6 of the 10 clubs to have won all 3 honours

That makes more sense.

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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:23 - Apr 27 with 1342 views

MVBlue

Yep its probably why we're lucky we did get promoted.
Theres a lot of analysis missing from modern football, like the amount those clubs spent on players, Bournemouth and Brentford bought > £40m on a single player.

We are at the table now.

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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:28 - Apr 27 with 1316 views

Herbivore

The TV money and prize money is so huge now that things like gate receipts and merch are a relatively small proportion of turnover for the majority of Prem sides. Bournemouth can spend £40m+ on a 19 year old striker while pulling in gates of 10k. They benefited from rising though the leagues with some serious investment behind them at a time where PSR rules weren't in place, and FFP was much weaker. Once you get to the Prem, a side like Bournemouth could give away STs and still be able to spend big, so size of club now has little to do with fanbase or winning stuff, it's all financial.

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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:59 - Apr 27 with 1186 views

Mark

I think things will get more static, with those teams staying mid table in the Premier League for years. The top five will stay the same with their extra Champions' League money, plus the Club World Cup money that Chelsea and Man City will get. The promoted teams will be relegated every season. It could get rather boring.

The parachute money skews the Championship title race too, with the same teams going up. At least we are one of those clubs now, and that is why last season's promotion was so huge. The play-offs mean clubs without parachute money have a chance of promotion too, albeit next to no chance of staying up when they get there.

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 09:12 - Apr 27 with 1134 views

Axeldalai_lama

The fear of being a yo-yo club is a funny one, in that if we became an 'established' premier league also ran what would that look like? Lower mid table safety every year, winning, what,12 games a season, losing 20 odd every season? Yo-yoing wouldn't necessarily be my choice but is rebuilding and hopefully spending a season winning 30 games pretty handsomely at times, better or worse.
I really don't know. Maybe it is better being a prem regular and one season in 4 or 5 doing a bit better, top 10, or getting further in a cup. As you were!

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 09:55 - Apr 27 with 1056 views

Guthrum

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 09:12 - Apr 27 by Axeldalai_lama

Thing is, if you can become an established Prem "also ran", there is the chance of superior organisation/management/recruiting driving you high up the table. Forest this season, West Ham last, Villa quite recently and, of course, Leicester in 2015-16.

Big sides have poor seasons often enough for those already in the door to take advantage.

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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 10:30 - Apr 28 with 758 views

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Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 08:59 - Apr 27 by Mark

It's interesting that having experienced three leagues in the last three season, League One feels more like the old Div 2 these days with the variation from week to week of the sides who are out to play football (e.g. Bolton, Sheff Weds) against the sides who rely more on physicality and staunch defence (Cheltenham, Fleetwood). In particular the Championship imo has a very high standard of football these days compared to when we used to be going to Grimsby, Barnsley in the 80s and 90s etc. - it's just a lot lot slower than the modern Premier League. I still reckon most of the top half of the Championship would probably have stood a decent chance in the first Premier League season - most feel like they'd be at least as good as Naarwich that year, if not Man Utd.

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 10:50 - Apr 28 with 708 views

surreyblue

Premier league money has adjusted the football hierarchy on 09:12 - Apr 27 by Axeldalai_lama

I think there is value in getting into, and staying in that pool of established premier league teams. While it has felt like the "big 6" and the three promoted clubs have been weaker than most of the last decade, the other 11 clubs seem to be stronger in aggregate than ever. With at least 7 european spots open (and in some seasons and 8th or even up to 11 if certain circumstances play out) there is certainly opportunities for success, whether that is getting into Europe or putting on a strong cup run.

Well over half of the teams in that "middle 11" at the moment have either qualified for European competitions or had a significant cup run (FA Cup SF or better, league cup final or better). If we are in a position where more often than not we reach the start of March with realistic hopes of either a cup final or a european place, I'd certainly be happy with that.

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