| Disability cuts 15:07 - Jun 26 with 820 views | DJR |
Powerful piece by Frances Ryan, recently named as one Vogue's 25 women "defining Britain".
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/26/labour-party-disabled-peop
"In 2015, fresh from the coalition pact, the Liberal Democrats were punished by the electorate for helping the Conservatives push through sweeping public spending cuts. Come the next general election, the accusation will not be that Starmer’s Labour cosied up to the Tories for power, but that they embodied them: their cruelty, their austerity and, ultimately, their failure.
In the event the rebel amendment wins or Downing Street is forced to pull the vote or water down plans to save face, it cannot undo the fact that the government wished to enact these cuts in the first place. If the bill does go ahead, the division lobby will shine a light not simply on the chasms in the Labour party, but between compassion and careerism, bravery and betrayal.
Forget the MPs who rebel over cutting disabled people’s benefits – remember those who don’t. This is Labour’s poll tax. Its tuition fees. Its Partygate. Just as the Iraq war was for Tony Blair, disability cuts is the moral stain that will mark Starmer’s government and the party for years to come. Severely disabled and ill people are going to be starved, isolated and degraded as a result of this policy. No Labour MP who backs it should be forgiven."
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| Disability cuts on 15:24 - Jun 26 with 775 views | DJR |
I have been critical of Morgan McSweeney from the outset, and interestingly it looks like he is getting a lot of well-deserved stick.
"Morgan McSweeney, the PM’s chief of staff, is being blamed by many Labour MPs for No 10 now being in the situation where, with less than a week to go before the vote on the welfare bill, the government does not yet have the votes to get it through.
In a long read on McSweeney’s role in the crisis, written by Jim Pickard, George Parker and Anna Gross, the Financial Times quotes a “Labour veteran” saying:
Everyone is selling shares in Morgan. People are starting to put their heads above the parapet and say maybe he’s not the Messiah after all.
The article says McSweeney is accused of ignoring the views of the parliamentary party and being too obsessed with fighting Labour’s left. It says:
Another MP said McSweeney’s role in the government seemed to be to “shield” Starmer from uncomfortable truths, including on his welfare reforms.
“Other people in Number 10 were saying he didn’t have the numbers for this and he wouldn’t get it through parliament. The chief whip has been warning them about this for months. But they had their fingers in their ears,” they said. “It’s extraordinarily arrogant and complacent.”
Others see in Number 10’s determinedness to press ahead with next week’s House of Commons vote on the welfare bill a sign of McSweeney’s desire to still confront Labour’s denuded leftwing. One MP from the 2024 election intake said it seemed as though McSweeney was “spoiling for a fight” with the left of the party over the welfare reforms, which was a “very stupid thing to do”.
The Times’ splash story also quotes unnamed MPs criticising McSweeney. It says:
Other MPs in last year’s intake conceded many of the rebels were united by their dislike of senior advisers in No 10. “What links everyone on that list is that they reject Morgan’s way of doing politics,” one said.
Ministers blamed McSweeney and [Rachel] Reeves for “shambolic” political management. “Rachel’s responsible for imposing an arbitrary cuts agenda on Liz’s welfare reform agenda,” one said. “Morgan is responsible for shambolic political management. He was warned that this would happen and ignored it. He has completely failed to do his job.”
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| Disability cuts on 15:59 - Jun 26 with 714 views | Bluecoin |
Along with freezing to death OAPs who had paid tax all their lives. Pushing 250000+ disabled people into poverty is an interesting approach from Starmr / Labour.
People have long memories. Prepare for Nigel! |  | | |
| Disability cuts on 16:11 - Jun 26 with 673 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Disability cuts on 15:59 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Along with freezing to death OAPs who had paid tax all their lives. Pushing 250000+ disabled people into poverty is an interesting approach from Starmr / Labour.
People have long memories. Prepare for Nigel! |
Prepare for Nigel pushing even more people into poverty? |  | | |
| Disability cuts on 16:17 - Jun 26 with 655 views | BlueBadger |
| Disability cuts on 15:59 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Along with freezing to death OAPs who had paid tax all their lives. Pushing 250000+ disabled people into poverty is an interesting approach from Starmr / Labour.
People have long memories. Prepare for Nigel! |
How's Nige working out for the honest burghers of his constituency which has one of the most deprived areas in the country within it? |  |
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| Disability cuts on 16:21 - Jun 26 with 652 views | BlueBadger |
| Disability cuts on 16:11 - Jun 26 by Clapham_Junction |
Prepare for Nigel pushing even more people into poverty? |
But on the plus side, billionaires and non-dons would pay even less tax, some trans kids might not get to play football with their mates, we'd have an excellent trading relationship with Russia and a highly efficient privatised healthcare system. [Post edited 26 Jun 16:22]
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| Disability cuts on 16:36 - Jun 26 with 630 views | bsw72 |
"Forget the MPs who rebel over cutting disabled people’s benefits – remember those who don’t. This is Labour’s poll tax. Its tuition fees. Its Partygate. Just as the Iraq war was for Tony Blair, disability cuts is the moral stain that will mark Starmer’s government and the party for years to come."
Rightly or wrongly I do not think the above statement is true, because disability benefit changes does not impact the wider voting pubic in the same way that Poll Tax and Party Gate hit home.
The wider public does not care about those with disabilities - I know that because I have close family members who live with chronic illnesses, and the way they are treated by most is poor, either directly or indirectly. |  | | |
| Disability cuts on 17:53 - Jun 26 with 556 views | Bluecoin |
| Disability cuts on 16:11 - Jun 26 by Clapham_Junction |
Prepare for Nigel pushing even more people into poverty? |
Not my words, Carol, the words of yougov.
And Starmr still has 4 years of ballsing it up even more. | | | |
| Disability cuts on 18:03 - Jun 26 with 523 views | positivity |
| Disability cuts on 17:53 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Not my words, Carol, the words of yougov.
And Starmr still has 4 years of ballsing it up even more. |
the problem for reform is that there isn't a vote tomorrow, and they will have a track record of what they actually do in power.
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| Disability cuts on 18:13 - Jun 26 with 497 views | Pinewoodblue |
While I agree with the original poster I am aware the current arrangements are open to abuse.
Wouldn’t agree to shopping abusers, many if whom need the financial support, it should be acknowledged that a problem does exist. |  |
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| Disability cuts on 18:24 - Jun 26 with 475 views | backwaywhen |
| Disability cuts on 17:53 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Not my words, Carol, the words of yougov.
And Starmr still has 4 years of ballsing it up even more. |
Vote for change ….vote Labour !
And change we are getting . | | | |
| Disability cuts on 18:29 - Jun 26 with 464 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Guardian link and quotes from the article, tssssk haven't you heard, have a day off would you! |  |
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| Disability cuts on 18:44 - Jun 26 with 438 views | Bluecoin |
| Disability cuts on 18:03 - Jun 26 by positivity |
the problem for reform is that there isn't a vote tomorrow, and they will have a track record of what they actually do in power.
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Haha, bet he had a cheeky spliff before the interview! | | | |
| Disability cuts on 18:53 - Jun 26 with 413 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Disability cuts on 17:53 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Not my words, Carol, the words of yougov.
And Starmr still has 4 years of ballsing it up even more. |
Well, it would be a hung parliament so they’d still have to find willing bedfellows to form a government (so probably the Tories).
But that wasn’t the question. The question was more around whether Reform’s policies would make people better off. The analyses I’ve seen suggest they (a) would slash public spending, leading a a worsening of public services (although NHS somewhat protected but Labour’s budget increase through to 25/26 is higher), and (b) slash taxes for companies, leading to a shortfall of £140BN per year in the public purse.
If you think we’ve already had austerity, you’ve seen nothing yet. Add in the amateurism being shown by their councils so far and it doesn’t inspire confidence.
But yes, although we’re 4 years out from an election, there’s a clear push to get them elected and we know the public are daft enough to go along with it for all the wrong reasons. |  |
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| Disability cuts on 19:08 - Jun 26 with 401 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s a big challenge to Starmer’s leadership isn’t it DJR? It could be career-defining for him (may not be if he’s prepared to go a long way on concessions- I’m assuming he can recover even though some pundits are getting excited that it could be the end for him).
I don’t have to manage our national budget and do it’s easy for me to say, but this seems like (another!) corner he’s painted himself into by being tone deaf to the view of his party and a lot of the country (weirdo tribalists aside, who he’ll never please). McSweeney is at last starting to get a lot of stick publicly. He must have been getting stick privately amongst MPs, but this is the first time I’ve seen a sustained public attack on him. It could be his career that’s the casualty of these callous proposals and not Starmer’s. | |
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| Disability cuts on 19:57 - Jun 26 with 363 views | positivity |
| Disability cuts on 18:44 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Haha, bet he had a cheeky spliff before the interview! |
if they were the best that nige and co could find for the job, then i'd love to see who was beaten to the job! | |
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| Disability cuts on 20:07 - Jun 26 with 350 views | Bluecoin |
| Disability cuts on 19:57 - Jun 26 by positivity |
if they were the best that nige and co could find for the job, then i'd love to see who was beaten to the job! |
I think we can agree that the quality on all sides is a disgrace. The country is absolutely fcuked!
And she is in charge of more than a roundabout somewhere in Notts! | | | |
| Disability cuts on 20:17 - Jun 26 with 334 views | positivity |
| Disability cuts on 20:07 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
I think we can agree that the quality on all sides is a disgrace. The country is absolutely fcuked!
And she is in charge of more than a roundabout somewhere in Notts! |
nope, i don't think we can. i know labour (& conservative) councillors and they've put in massive hours (often unpaid) and are serious about their roles even if i disagree with their policies.
these reform people are chancers who care nothing about the public | |
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| Disability cuts on 20:26 - Jun 26 with 320 views | DJR |
| Disability cuts on 16:36 - Jun 26 by bsw72 |
"Forget the MPs who rebel over cutting disabled people’s benefits – remember those who don’t. This is Labour’s poll tax. Its tuition fees. Its Partygate. Just as the Iraq war was for Tony Blair, disability cuts is the moral stain that will mark Starmer’s government and the party for years to come."
Rightly or wrongly I do not think the above statement is true, because disability benefit changes does not impact the wider voting pubic in the same way that Poll Tax and Party Gate hit home.
The wider public does not care about those with disabilities - I know that because I have close family members who live with chronic illnesses, and the way they are treated by most is poor, either directly or indirectly. |
That's true in the sense of the wider public but not the many who are traditional Labour Party voters, given the Labour Party is not meant to be in the business of targeting the vulnerable.
As it is, McSweeney handpicked the entire new Labour MP intake to ensure it was as compliant and free from socialism as it was possible to be, and despite this a sizeable number of them cannot stomach what is going on.
My view is that this will just ensure many potential voters (including the disabled) drift off to the Greens or the Lib Dems, or just don't vote at all, further increasing the chances of a Reform victory. [Post edited 26 Jun 20:30]
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| Disability cuts on 20:52 - Jun 26 with 285 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Disability cuts on 20:17 - Jun 26 by positivity |
nope, i don't think we can. i know labour (& conservative) councillors and they've put in massive hours (often unpaid) and are serious about their roles even if i disagree with their policies.
these reform people are chancers who care nothing about the public |
Too bloody right. I was unfortunate enough to have to deal with them in the EU Parliament between about 10-15 years ago. It was UKIP back then but still the cult of Farage with the same ideology.
Farage was never present (yeah the reports are true, he rarely turned up), his staffers were immature weirdos and perverts and his MEPs mostly c**nts. I had the leader of the Tories in Europe as my sponsor for 5 years and he was professional, personable and likeable. We didn’t always get on ideologically, but he’d always listen and discuss things. And he treated his staff well, which wasn’t always a given with the UKIPpers. The day this cult gets in (which I suspect it will) will set us back decades. They’ve already cost us £40BN per year through Brexit, as confirmed by the recent assessment; and now they want to hammer us by another £140BN per year on top. They’ll make Liz Truss look like a genius. [Post edited 26 Jun 21:13]
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| Disability cuts on 21:01 - Jun 26 with 274 views | BlueBadger |
| Disability cuts on 17:53 - Jun 26 by Bluecoin |
Not my words, Carol, the words of yougov.
And Starmr still has 4 years of ballsing it up even more. |
Astonishing that someone dead keen on crypto would fall an obvious grift like Reform. [Post edited 26 Jun 23:07]
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| Disability cuts on 00:01 - Jun 27 with 161 views | positivity |
| Disability cuts on 21:01 - Jun 26 by BlueBadger |
Astonishing that someone dead keen on crypto would fall an obvious grift like Reform. [Post edited 26 Jun 23:07]
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fools and their money...
reform seems like the political equivalent of a pyramid scheme, so no surprises there | |
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