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Cricket 13:02 - Jul 5 with 1147 viewsSteve_M

Dropping Pant when India already have a big lead looks careless. Big session after lunch now, need wickets before India pile up runs.
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Cricket on 18:56 - Jul 6 with 129 viewsredrickstuhaart

Cricket on 18:47 - Jul 6 by stonojnr

it does, but their tactical philosphies become a mantra that they just stick to and the players arent able to adapt to the ingame situation.

as you can speak to or just listen to loads of ex players who know that you adapt your game plan as things progress, the truly great cricketers and captains in the game just did it naturally.

and this is why "bazball" as a concept is so stupid, but it works against most of the teams England face, because you can bludgeon most bowlers in most teams, win a game and declare everything is rosy, and then play Australia or India and come crashing back to Earth again with a reality check.

but there we go, the players are told they have to go at 4 an over, that every ball is a boundary shot so what can they do.


The approach has been absolutely fine this time. This issue is that we have a toothless samey attack.
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Cricket on 20:43 - Jul 6 with 77 viewsRadlett_blue

Cricket on 18:25 - Jul 6 by mellowblue

I was emphasizing the difference in pitch set up for one day and test matches. The pitch for this test was a well balanced pitch. Bat well and there are runs for you, bowl well and there are wickets. Definitely a pitch to bat first on though. I have no problem with this pitch. India did what they should have done first test, put enough runs on the board to make it safe and put England on the defensive. You are right, England have been out-bowled whether seam or spin. Definitely need Archer to give them the hurry-up, assuming he can still bowl full-pace. Congrats to India, after the first test I did not think they would win, very impressive, they have really stepped it up.


Fair point, pitches for ODIs are generally prepared to promote stroke play, A 4th or 5th day Test wicket should be giving some help to the bowlers.
I'm not sure Archer is the answer as Lord's is usually a falt pitch which gradually gets flatter, but he's likely to play, hopefully at the expense of Woakes who has looked past it, but Woakes actually has an excellent record at Lord's , which doesn't reward outright pace.

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Cricket on 00:29 - Jul 7 with 30 viewsReus30

Can't win a test match if you can't take 20 wickets.
Bowling attack is always looking light, as much as I like Archer, not sure he is the answer.

Also, conceding a 1000 runs in a test match too is just embarrassing. The pitch has to take some flak for that regardless but bowling/fielding has all been poor.

You'd think you if scored 700 runs you'd win a test match but it's only batted in 160 overs! Slow the f down, you get a draw in this game and you still lead the series.
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Cricket on 00:47 - Jul 7 with 26 viewsgainsboroughblue

Cricket on 00:29 - Jul 7 by Reus30

Can't win a test match if you can't take 20 wickets.
Bowling attack is always looking light, as much as I like Archer, not sure he is the answer.

Also, conceding a 1000 runs in a test match too is just embarrassing. The pitch has to take some flak for that regardless but bowling/fielding has all been poor.

You'd think you if scored 700 runs you'd win a test match but it's only batted in 160 overs! Slow the f down, you get a draw in this game and you still lead the series.


Also, we are destroying our bowlers by batting how we do.

It's all very well scoring 400 in 70 overs or whatever but we need to be doing more to preserve our attack and let them rest in between innings.

To be flogging them for the best part of a day and a half only to have them back on the field within 3 sessions is not looking at the wider picture.

This winter's Ashes is the first we've had down under since the Stokes/McCullum tenure and it will be very unforgiving for what tends to be an injury prone bowling unit in Australia on flat pitches and searing heat across five test matches.

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