| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation 08:57 - Aug 18 with 4927 views | ArnieM |
Am I the only one that is becoming concerned at McKenna's insistence on playing this formation, whoever we play against?
I feel McKenna is predictable. Opponents know how we set up. Our midfield is the problem, we either get overrun or outmuscled in midfield in almost every game. But more importantly our forwards get little service, and our defence has little protection.
What is McKenna's problem with playing 3 in the middle? He doesn't try anything different, ever!
What do others feel about playing just two in midfield?
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 16:53 - Aug 19 with 383 views | HighgateBlue |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 11:59 - Aug 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We haven't got the full squad in yet (and those we have got in will take time to get up to speed). That's a big part of it. |
That is true, but that is part of the problem of our approach rather than an excuse that has been foisted on us because of circumstances beyond our control.
There are always plenty of competitive teams in the championship, and many of them are raring to go, with much more complete squads than us. There has either been a failure of strategy or execution given where we find ourselves squad-wise right now.
Norwich managed to bring in 11 players, just to cite one example. We were always going to lose a number of players without being able to stop them from going, and once we chucked Morsy on the bonfire it was clear that we needed to be signing players more proactively than our competitors, rather than less. Time will tell, and I suppose we judge at the end of the window, because things may yet change. But playing catch up in a season where we have a massive financial advantage is a real headscratcher. Right now I can't think of a department in which we're materially stronger than we were 18 months ago. Even centre back is highly debatable, having let Burgess go, although I'm not going to be so churlish as to criticise O'Shea, or Greaves' performances so far this season.
I'm not worried about our defence or our keeper. The former is decent (and we only need to recruit another centre back if Woolfie has had enough), and the latter is good enough for this level (though not the level above).
We need to create chances, and we need to finish clinically. Both of these areas have been disappointing so far. |  | | |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:04 - Aug 19 with 315 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 16:53 - Aug 19 by HighgateBlue |
That is true, but that is part of the problem of our approach rather than an excuse that has been foisted on us because of circumstances beyond our control.
There are always plenty of competitive teams in the championship, and many of them are raring to go, with much more complete squads than us. There has either been a failure of strategy or execution given where we find ourselves squad-wise right now.
Norwich managed to bring in 11 players, just to cite one example. We were always going to lose a number of players without being able to stop them from going, and once we chucked Morsy on the bonfire it was clear that we needed to be signing players more proactively than our competitors, rather than less. Time will tell, and I suppose we judge at the end of the window, because things may yet change. But playing catch up in a season where we have a massive financial advantage is a real headscratcher. Right now I can't think of a department in which we're materially stronger than we were 18 months ago. Even centre back is highly debatable, having let Burgess go, although I'm not going to be so churlish as to criticise O'Shea, or Greaves' performances so far this season.
I'm not worried about our defence or our keeper. The former is decent (and we only need to recruit another centre back if Woolfie has had enough), and the latter is good enough for this level (though not the level above).
We need to create chances, and we need to finish clinically. Both of these areas have been disappointing so far. |
I'm scratching my head that you're scracthing your head, it's been explained on here enough times!
How many of those Norwich 11 are you gutted we missed out on? |  |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:23 - Aug 19 with 305 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:04 - Aug 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm scratching my head that you're scracthing your head, it's been explained on here enough times!
How many of those Norwich 11 are you gutted we missed out on? |
Flash. Does it matter really how many of those we would want. The answer is probably none.
However we have our own requirements and are struggling to meet those requirements with a week to go.
Now I'm all for patience. And yes we are shopping in a different market etc but it's plain as day KM is frustrated so fans can be too. We need quality reinforcements and are still probably 5/6 players away from a real quality squad. That's alot to ask for in 1 week esp when we then need to remove some players too.
In a whole world of football and hundreds of thousands of footballers. It's incredible that we go into this week how we have.
So. Here's to an exciting week |  |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:35 - Aug 19 with 290 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:23 - Aug 19 by FrimleyBlue |
Flash. Does it matter really how many of those we would want. The answer is probably none.
However we have our own requirements and are struggling to meet those requirements with a week to go.
Now I'm all for patience. And yes we are shopping in a different market etc but it's plain as day KM is frustrated so fans can be too. We need quality reinforcements and are still probably 5/6 players away from a real quality squad. That's alot to ask for in 1 week esp when we then need to remove some players too.
In a whole world of football and hundreds of thousands of footballers. It's incredible that we go into this week how we have.
So. Here's to an exciting week |
1. We've got almost 2 weeks.
2. You've answered it yourself - we are shopping in a different market. A market that doesn't start moving until the end of the window, and it's been explained many times why.
3. We aren't 5/6 players away from a quality squad.
4. We don't want most of those hundreds of thousands of footballers. We want close to the best, potentially prem ready.
5. You say you're all for patience, but you're really not are you? | |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:56 - Aug 19 with 275 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:35 - Aug 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
1. We've got almost 2 weeks.
2. You've answered it yourself - we are shopping in a different market. A market that doesn't start moving until the end of the window, and it's been explained many times why.
3. We aren't 5/6 players away from a quality squad.
4. We don't want most of those hundreds of thousands of footballers. We want close to the best, potentially prem ready.
5. You say you're all for patience, but you're really not are you? |
I disagree that we don't need 5 to 6
I've been fairly patient yes. I'm sure KM is patient too. I'm frustrated too. I'm sure actually I know he's frustrated too.
No one wins any points trying to claim that this window was always going to go how it has just because of the market we are shopping in. But many not aimed directly at you seem really keen to make it out that this is completely normal. It's effectively been planned for and all is well. | |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:16 - Aug 19 with 257 views | Herbivore |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:56 - Aug 19 by FrimleyBlue |
I disagree that we don't need 5 to 6
I've been fairly patient yes. I'm sure KM is patient too. I'm frustrated too. I'm sure actually I know he's frustrated too.
No one wins any points trying to claim that this window was always going to go how it has just because of the market we are shopping in. But many not aimed directly at you seem really keen to make it out that this is completely normal. It's effectively been planned for and all is well. |
Where do we need these 5 or 6 players and who are they replacing? I make it one more CM, ideally a LB to cover Davis, a Hutch replacement, and a striker. Where else do we need signings? |  |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:19 - Aug 19 with 242 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:16 - Aug 19 by Herbivore |
Where do we need these 5 or 6 players and who are they replacing? I make it one more CM, ideally a LB to cover Davis, a Hutch replacement, and a striker. Where else do we need signings? |
1 x striker Maybe 2 dependent on hamadi injury
1 x left back
2 x cm
1 x hutch replacement
Ideally a new gk. But don't see it. | |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:28 - Aug 19 with 223 views | Herbivore |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:19 - Aug 19 by FrimleyBlue |
1 x striker Maybe 2 dependent on hamadi injury
1 x left back
2 x cm
1 x hutch replacement
Ideally a new gk. But don't see it. |
A new striker will be taking Al Hamadi's squad place, it'll be Hirst, new striker, and Akpom to cover as our options. There won't be another striker on top of that, we won't have room in the squad. We only need one CM to compete with Cajuste and Matusiwa, Taylor or Humphreys absolutely fine to be fourth choice midfielder. We aren't likely to get someone better than either of them to come here and start about 3 games all season. | |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:33 - Aug 19 with 206 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 21:28 - Aug 19 by Herbivore |
A new striker will be taking Al Hamadi's squad place, it'll be Hirst, new striker, and Akpom to cover as our options. There won't be another striker on top of that, we won't have room in the squad. We only need one CM to compete with Cajuste and Matusiwa, Taylor or Humphreys absolutely fine to be fourth choice midfielder. We aren't likely to get someone better than either of them to come here and start about 3 games all season. |
We'll see | |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 11:19 - Aug 20 with 96 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 20:56 - Aug 19 by FrimleyBlue |
I disagree that we don't need 5 to 6
I've been fairly patient yes. I'm sure KM is patient too. I'm frustrated too. I'm sure actually I know he's frustrated too.
No one wins any points trying to claim that this window was always going to go how it has just because of the market we are shopping in. But many not aimed directly at you seem really keen to make it out that this is completely normal. It's effectively been planned for and all is well. |
I mean it is pretty normal. They talked about it as a normal (albeit annoying) thing for recently relegated parachute clubs on Blue Monday. And it's kind of common sense as well. Hackney is a prime example - hanging on as long as poss because he'd rather have a Prem club come in. Meanwhile Prem clubs don't let their players go out until others come in - see the Newcastle lad. It's all really obvious.
I really don't see how we need a further 5 or 6... and you have to lose players to fit them in as well. It just isn't realistic, or probably desirable.
Your posting, here, doesn't look like someone being patient. You even wrongly stated there was only a week to go. | |
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| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 11:38 - Aug 20 with 60 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna's insistence on playing the same formation on 11:19 - Aug 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I mean it is pretty normal. They talked about it as a normal (albeit annoying) thing for recently relegated parachute clubs on Blue Monday. And it's kind of common sense as well. Hackney is a prime example - hanging on as long as poss because he'd rather have a Prem club come in. Meanwhile Prem clubs don't let their players go out until others come in - see the Newcastle lad. It's all really obvious.
I really don't see how we need a further 5 or 6... and you have to lose players to fit them in as well. It just isn't realistic, or probably desirable.
Your posting, here, doesn't look like someone being patient. You even wrongly stated there was only a week to go. |
I did indeed wrongly state its a week to go. I apologise i had just booked something prior to replying to you and in my head I was already halfway next week :)
We will see regarding ins and outs. It's my opinion I maybe wrong if I am I am its not gonna break the Internet.
But imo if I wasn't patient enough I'd be joining in with the ashton bashing posts. I'm not quite there yet.
Do i believe more could have been done already yes. And KM feels the same. So if you feel that's wrong then its wrong of KM for thinking the same too.
Anyways. You know us. We can go back and forth in this all day so let's keep it there lol. :) | |
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