| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out 11:48 - Jan 15 with 1168 views | urbanblue |
Any of you, like me, who have dual Citizenship and want to enter the UK cannot now enter on your foreign Passport as you could previously. This means that even those born in the UK who have moved abroad, and don't hold a British Passport will need one, or an extremely expensive Certificate of Entitlement to enter.
Boring post maybe for a lot of people but if this prevents even one of you being caught out it's worth it. I only found out when someone told me today
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 13:32 - Jan 15 with 933 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If you hold two passports you should always enter and exit the country that you’re a citizen of with that passport, it’s common sense. Why would you enter as a visitor when you’re a citizen? It’s law to do so plenty of places.
Pretty easy to renew you passport from abroad, in fact my UK one took under a month including shipping, which was rather impressive. |  |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 20:23 - Jan 15 with 671 views | urbanblue |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 13:32 - Jan 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If you hold two passports you should always enter and exit the country that you’re a citizen of with that passport, it’s common sense. Why would you enter as a visitor when you’re a citizen? It’s law to do so plenty of places.
Pretty easy to renew you passport from abroad, in fact my UK one took under a month including shipping, which was rather impressive. |
Everything you say is very true IF you have two Passports but I know Brits over here in Australia who have been here a very long time, consider themselves a dual citizen but haven't bothered with the British passport because they haven't needed to.
If your foreign passport says that you were born in the UK you aren't getting on the plane. Yes, you would probably find out when completing the ETA but mayy well be too late. | | | |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 20:34 - Jan 15 with 625 views | DJR |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 20:23 - Jan 15 by urbanblue |
Everything you say is very true IF you have two Passports but I know Brits over here in Australia who have been here a very long time, consider themselves a dual citizen but haven't bothered with the British passport because they haven't needed to.
If your foreign passport says that you were born in the UK you aren't getting on the plane. Yes, you would probably find out when completing the ETA but mayy well be too late. |
It is not really clear to me from the Guardian article why they are doing this apart from to raise money or make things difficult for people.
The question also arises as to whether it applies to dual nationals with, say, a Canadian passport.
Incidentally, being born in the UK doesn't automatically bring with it a right to British citizenship, so what's in the passport doesn't on its own settle this issue.
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citiz [Post edited 15 Jan 21:08]
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 21:25 - Jan 15 with 510 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 20:23 - Jan 15 by urbanblue |
Everything you say is very true IF you have two Passports but I know Brits over here in Australia who have been here a very long time, consider themselves a dual citizen but haven't bothered with the British passport because they haven't needed to.
If your foreign passport says that you were born in the UK you aren't getting on the plane. Yes, you would probably find out when completing the ETA but mayy well be too late. |
No dual British Citizen can or should use ETA to try enter the UK.
That would be as crazy as a dual American citizen use ESTA just because they haven't kept up with renewing their passport.
Brits in Aus may as well give their British citizenship up if they consider themselves Australian and want to use ETA.
I never know why anyone wouldn't keep up with their travel documents, let alone expats, pretty important. | |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 21:30 - Jan 15 with 491 views | urbanblue |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 20:34 - Jan 15 by DJR |
It is not really clear to me from the Guardian article why they are doing this apart from to raise money or make things difficult for people.
The question also arises as to whether it applies to dual nationals with, say, a Canadian passport.
Incidentally, being born in the UK doesn't automatically bring with it a right to British citizenship, so what's in the passport doesn't on its own settle this issue.
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citiz [Post edited 15 Jan 21:08]
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Yes, Canadian and other Countries too. All the links I found were Aussie based as I live here. It may well raise a fair bit of money as the Certificate of Entitlementf you would have to get if you don't have the time to get a Passport costs nearly £600! | | | |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 22:38 - Jan 15 with 392 views | noggin |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 13:32 - Jan 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If you hold two passports you should always enter and exit the country that you’re a citizen of with that passport, it’s common sense. Why would you enter as a visitor when you’re a citizen? It’s law to do so plenty of places.
Pretty easy to renew you passport from abroad, in fact my UK one took under a month including shipping, which was rather impressive. |
I'm dual citizen and, since Brexit, always enter the UK with my Irish passport. In fact, I can't see the point in renewing the UK one. It's pretty worthless now. |  |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 22:42 - Jan 15 with 378 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 22:38 - Jan 15 by noggin |
I'm dual citizen and, since Brexit, always enter the UK with my Irish passport. In fact, I can't see the point in renewing the UK one. It's pretty worthless now. |
Yeah don't bother Noggin. | |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 23:17 - Jan 15 with 314 views | noggin |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 22:42 - Jan 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah don't bother Noggin. |
Thanks, I won't. | |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 23:35 - Jan 15 with 271 views | acj |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 20:34 - Jan 15 by DJR |
It is not really clear to me from the Guardian article why they are doing this apart from to raise money or make things difficult for people.
The question also arises as to whether it applies to dual nationals with, say, a Canadian passport.
Incidentally, being born in the UK doesn't automatically bring with it a right to British citizenship, so what's in the passport doesn't on its own settle this issue.
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citiz [Post edited 15 Jan 21:08]
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On your last point, I’m a British citizen but wasn’t born in the UK. I’m not a dual citizen, but would imagine there are loads who have British citizenship from their parents but were born overseas - are they unaffected by this? |  |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 00:29 - Jan 16 with 201 views | IPS_wich |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 13:32 - Jan 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If you hold two passports you should always enter and exit the country that you’re a citizen of with that passport, it’s common sense. Why would you enter as a visitor when you’re a citizen? It’s law to do so plenty of places.
Pretty easy to renew you passport from abroad, in fact my UK one took under a month including shipping, which was rather impressive. |
That's what I thought, but...
When I got my first Australian passport in 2021 and visited the UK I entered the UK on my British passport with no problems. But when I went to leave I was told I had to use my British passport on exiting the UK (which I did no problem) but when I tried to enter back into Australia I was given the Spanish Inquisition about why I'd travelled on my British passport!!
So I've used my Australian passport for each of my last to UK visits with no problems at either end. |  | | |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 00:54 - Jan 16 with 173 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 00:29 - Jan 16 by IPS_wich |
That's what I thought, but...
When I got my first Australian passport in 2021 and visited the UK I entered the UK on my British passport with no problems. But when I went to leave I was told I had to use my British passport on exiting the UK (which I did no problem) but when I tried to enter back into Australia I was given the Spanish Inquisition about why I'd travelled on my British passport!!
So I've used my Australian passport for each of my last to UK visits with no problems at either end. |
You should use both though!
Simple rule…
Enter/Exit at the border with passport you hold citizenship of said country.
Check in with the airline with your passport destination, so the airline and immigration system knows you don’t require any authorization to enter.
Not sure why anyone would land themselves as visitor in a country they hold citizenship. | |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 02:49 - Jan 16 with 94 views | urbanblue |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 21:25 - Jan 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
No dual British Citizen can or should use ETA to try enter the UK.
That would be as crazy as a dual American citizen use ESTA just because they haven't kept up with renewing their passport.
Brits in Aus may as well give their British citizenship up if they consider themselves Australian and want to use ETA.
I never know why anyone wouldn't keep up with their travel documents, let alone expats, pretty important. |
As I said many ex pats don't have a British Passport because they just haven't needed to have one. It's been quite simple to just travel backwards and forwards on their Aussie passport. The ETA is quite new and I'd imagine there are some who wouldn't even know about that.
If a family of 5 emigrated to Australia and gained Aussie Passports it could be said why then get 5 UK Passports as well when they are not needed. It's a fair bit of extra work and expense if they are not necessarily going to be used.
I'm not saying whether this is right or wrong. Myself and my daughter have both Passports. I'm just saying that a lot of people are going to get quite a shock if they don't know about the change and find out a few days before intending to travel on a foreign passport. | | | |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 02:53 - Jan 16 with 92 views | urbanblue |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 23:35 - Jan 15 by acj |
On your last point, I’m a British citizen but wasn’t born in the UK. I’m not a dual citizen, but would imagine there are loads who have British citizenship from their parents but were born overseas - are they unaffected by this? |
My daughter was born in Australia but I applied for a British Passport by decent when she was about a year old. That gave her dual citizenship. I'm pretty sure that you actually have to apply in that way, or so I remember. If I hadn't she would just have been Australian.
So, yes, she would have to enter on her UK passport. | | | |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 02:57 - Jan 16 with 89 views | urbanblue |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 00:29 - Jan 16 by IPS_wich |
That's what I thought, but...
When I got my first Australian passport in 2021 and visited the UK I entered the UK on my British passport with no problems. But when I went to leave I was told I had to use my British passport on exiting the UK (which I did no problem) but when I tried to enter back into Australia I was given the Spanish Inquisition about why I'd travelled on my British passport!!
So I've used my Australian passport for each of my last to UK visits with no problems at either end. |
So you left Australia on your Australian, then tried to return on your British?
I've never had any problems exiting/entering Australia on my Australian and entering/exiting UK on my Britush. | | | |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 03:34 - Jan 16 with 62 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 02:49 - Jan 16 by urbanblue |
As I said many ex pats don't have a British Passport because they just haven't needed to have one. It's been quite simple to just travel backwards and forwards on their Aussie passport. The ETA is quite new and I'd imagine there are some who wouldn't even know about that.
If a family of 5 emigrated to Australia and gained Aussie Passports it could be said why then get 5 UK Passports as well when they are not needed. It's a fair bit of extra work and expense if they are not necessarily going to be used.
I'm not saying whether this is right or wrong. Myself and my daughter have both Passports. I'm just saying that a lot of people are going to get quite a shock if they don't know about the change and find out a few days before intending to travel on a foreign passport. |
If you’re a dual citizen who travels to one of your countries of citizenship, you should obviously have both passports. | |
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| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 03:38 - Jan 16 with 54 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Dual Citizenship... this is going to catch a lot of people out on 02:57 - Jan 16 by urbanblue |
So you left Australia on your Australian, then tried to return on your British?
I've never had any problems exiting/entering Australia on my Australian and entering/exiting UK on my Britush. |
What you said above in your second paragraph is the correct way of doing it. He probably had issues because they recorded leaving the country on one passport and trying to re-enter on another one, after having no record of departure.
Checking into a flight is different from entering/exiting a country and people get confused.
Biometrics these days change much of the hassle anyway. [Post edited 16 Jan 3:41]
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