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Presser 14:03 - Feb 19 with 3222 viewsPhilTWTD

Just awaiting Christian Walton, Kieran at half-past.
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Presser on 15:26 - Feb 19 with 660 viewsSwansea_Blue

Presser on 14:35 - Feb 19 by _CliveBaker_

Balls.


No MCL, so quite a lot lower down.

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Presser on 15:32 - Feb 19 with 628 viewsWeWereZombies

Presser on 15:09 - Feb 19 by DJR

The first two sentences brought to mind this quote by Jean Paul Sartre, the French philospoher.

"In a football match, everything Is complicated by the presence of the opposite team."
[Post edited 19 Feb 15:09]


Actually, I rather think that Sartre would have said 'Au football, tout est compliqué par la présence de l'équipe adverse.' actually...

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Presser on 15:37 - Feb 19 with 607 viewsle2blue

Presser on 15:17 - Feb 19 by JammyDodgerrr

What's this one about? Is it general comments around social media or did one of the players do something?


Bed sheet up to his usual antics, contributing to, and whipping up, general hysteria around a player out of form, forgetting that he’s an above average championship player who has played a key role in our previous promotions and will do again. Form is temporary, he needs support not digging out. Ignore the hate.
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Presser on 15:58 - Feb 19 with 507 viewslazyblue

Presser on 15:17 - Feb 19 by JammyDodgerrr

What's this one about? Is it general comments around social media or did one of the players do something?


Obviously comments made about a player from idiot fans brave on a keyboard
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Presser on 16:37 - Feb 19 with 425 viewsDJR

Presser on 15:32 - Feb 19 by WeWereZombies

Actually, I rather think that Sartre would have said 'Au football, tout est compliqué par la présence de l'équipe adverse.' actually...


I came across this.

In fact, in a football match, everything is complicated by the presence of the opposite team.

[En fait, dans un match de football, tout se complique du fait de la présence de l’équipe adverse.]

Source:
Critique of Dialectical Reason (1960), (ed. NLB, 1976), Page 473
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Presser on 17:06 - Feb 19 with 377 viewsDJR

Presser on 16:37 - Feb 19 by DJR

I came across this.

In fact, in a football match, everything is complicated by the presence of the opposite team.

[En fait, dans un match de football, tout se complique du fait de la présence de l’équipe adverse.]

Source:
Critique of Dialectical Reason (1960), (ed. NLB, 1976), Page 473


I can't find the French original but here's a link to an English translation and it seems to me that McKenna incorporates some of Sartre's philosophy in his methods. Maybe our current issues are due to the fact that the players and spectators don't understand it

https://files.libcom.org/files

Take this extract.

In the case of a football
team, the action of every player is predetermined as an indefinite
possibility by function, that is to say, in relation to a future objective
which can realise itself only through an organised multiplicity of tech
nical activities. Thus, function is for every member a relation to the
objective as a totality to be totalised. In the match, every common
individual will, in the light of the group's objective, effect a practical
synthesis (orientation, schematic determination of possibilities, of
difficulties, etc.) of the field in its present particularities (mud, perhaps,
or wind, etc.); in this way, he tries to make himself generally prepared
for the specific characteristics of the match. But he will realise this
practical synthesis - which, ultimately, is a kind of mapping, a sort of
totalising survey - not only for the group and on the basis of the
group's objective but also on the basis of his own position, that is to
say, in this case, of his function. From the moment when the real
struggle begins, his individual actions (though they require initiative,
daring, skill and speed, as well as discipline) no longer appear meaning
ful apart from those of the other members of his team (in so far, of
course, as each team is also defined by the other) - not only in the
abstract, in so far as each function presupposes the organisation of all
functions, but also in the very contingency of the concrete, in so far as
a particular player's slip or clumsiness at a particular point strictly
conditions the movement of another player (or, of all the others) and
gives it a teleological meaning which can be understood by the other
players (and, though this is incidental here, by the spectators).
[Post edited 19 Feb 17:17]
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Presser on 19:06 - Feb 19 with 283 viewsWeWereZombies

Presser on 17:06 - Feb 19 by DJR

I can't find the French original but here's a link to an English translation and it seems to me that McKenna incorporates some of Sartre's philosophy in his methods. Maybe our current issues are due to the fact that the players and spectators don't understand it

https://files.libcom.org/files

Take this extract.

In the case of a football
team, the action of every player is predetermined as an indefinite
possibility by function, that is to say, in relation to a future objective
which can realise itself only through an organised multiplicity of tech
nical activities. Thus, function is for every member a relation to the
objective as a totality to be totalised. In the match, every common
individual will, in the light of the group's objective, effect a practical
synthesis (orientation, schematic determination of possibilities, of
difficulties, etc.) of the field in its present particularities (mud, perhaps,
or wind, etc.); in this way, he tries to make himself generally prepared
for the specific characteristics of the match. But he will realise this
practical synthesis - which, ultimately, is a kind of mapping, a sort of
totalising survey - not only for the group and on the basis of the
group's objective but also on the basis of his own position, that is to
say, in this case, of his function. From the moment when the real
struggle begins, his individual actions (though they require initiative,
daring, skill and speed, as well as discipline) no longer appear meaning
ful apart from those of the other members of his team (in so far, of
course, as each team is also defined by the other) - not only in the
abstract, in so far as each function presupposes the organisation of all
functions, but also in the very contingency of the concrete, in so far as
a particular player's slip or clumsiness at a particular point strictly
conditions the movement of another player (or, of all the others) and
gives it a teleological meaning which can be understood by the other
players (and, though this is incidental here, by the spectators).
[Post edited 19 Feb 17:17]


Argh, not only a citation but then an explication. I can only do what I can to accept defeat graciously, well played.

As an aside, if on every occasion that Town lost the players had to write that extract out fifty times do you think that Hirst would be less isolated and also find his shooting boots ?

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Presser on 07:38 - Feb 20 with 175 viewsSitfcB

Presser on 15:17 - Feb 19 by JammyDodgerrr

What's this one about? Is it general comments around social media or did one of the players do something?


Been a lot of nasty stuff towards Hirst lately on Twitter. Which he would/could see without looking too hard.

Stuart Watson was the one that asked the question, he did a story/spoke about the abuse of players so was following that up with the question really.

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Presser on 09:31 - Feb 20 with 133 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Presser on 07:38 - Feb 20 by SitfcB

Been a lot of nasty stuff towards Hirst lately on Twitter. Which he would/could see without looking too hard.

Stuart Watson was the one that asked the question, he did a story/spoke about the abuse of players so was following that up with the question really.


Fair - not on most socials so just hadn't seen it. Thanks.

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