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Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? 01:42 - Feb 20 with 2718 views

I’m not saying this as a statement just asking the question for someone that has been to one game this year and rarely looks at Twitter. Maybe it’s way worse than I understand.

Narratives quickly pick up pace but I hate for half the fan base to be labeled as “abusing” a player when it’s not true. There’s criticism, frustration (maybe about recruitment in the position as well that boils over) and abuse, all very different things.

I’ve heard radio interviews, podcasts and now KM talking about it in one week. It can cause a bit of a rift in and more edginess in the support when it gathers momentum. I always think social media is a very small subset of fans, like a tiny percentage in reality but they are also the loudest. A few idiots make a video and suddenly becomes a major topic. We’ve always had a bit of a groany fanbase and I’ve heard a lot of idiotic stuff at PR over the years but when you think we have 28k home fans and one of the best away support in the division, is it as bad as people are saying?!

Can’t help but think a lot of this energy would be better spent and making noise and creating atmosphere to show support, which has been lacking at home at times. Not like these muppets are being drowned out much!

Poll:

Ok gut feeling then, promotion?

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:36 - Feb 20 with 224 views

Dubtractor

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 13:26 - Feb 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Always someone got to put an angle unfair angle on something, by my own admission? Yes that’s why I asked it as a question, I do think Social Media is a fairly small subset of fans.

What is apparent in the last 5-6 times I have been in the ground the atmosphere isn’t what it once was, I could legit here individual conversations from 2 blocks away against Sheffield Wednesday.

In my experience it’s pretty easy to label entire fanbases unfairly that’s all, happens with England all the time. Hopefully people get behind him now so he can have a good end to the season.

Just to be clear, the not being there etc wasn't meant as a dig at you, but you are questioning whether something is really happening, when that 'thing' has clearly been observed by lots who ARE in the ground.

Phil has mentioned it in his reports, Hirst has clearly picked up on it, as has McKenna. So what is it you are questioning exactly? That we're all exaggerating it?

Absolutely agree that the atmosphere is pants in the stadium, but when people like UnstableBlue make posts about and try and rally support, he just gets mocked for his efforts.

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Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:39 - Feb 20 with 217 views

ashtonscoffeecup

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 13:53 - Feb 20 by waveneyblue
Whilst I agree wholeheartedly, you know how this works. The perma-negative fans never ever read this stuff, witness it or hear it, because its all made up and exaggerated by the "happy clappers" to get at them. Very misunderstood are our super fans. We Happy Clappers could learn a lot from them.

just over 12hrs for you to get on and give an expert opinion on the matter, you feeling ok?

as an SME on this, I'd have thought your internal alerting would have gone off moments after the initial post arrived, maybe look to tweak alerting, have someone look into the observability.

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:42 - Feb 20 with 204 views

Dubtractor

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 10:37 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup

i must say i have been to 95% of the games this season (home and away) and i've not heard Hirst told to FO - or called a useless C.
what i did hear when he missed that massive chance at home to PNE was a large number of "oh FFS!" with many standing with hands on head, arms out wide as if to say "really, you've really just done that"
which given the circumstances is absolutely acceptable. if your main striker cant hit the target at the very least in that situation you wont see anybody in any stadium worldwide stand up and clap. it was woeful.

fair enough if you feel the banter crosses the line, and on a birthday post people should really just keep quiet.

I am slightly incredulous at the suggestion you've not heard anything in the ground tbh, but I don't know where you sit so perfectly possible I guess.

I sit in upper North, and have been moved to ask people to STFU 3 times recently because of the abuse they are dishing out, and I am probably one of the least confrontational people on here (in real life) so it takes a lot to make me bite.

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Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:42 - Feb 20 with 204 views

djgooder

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 08:19 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup
the way i see it is people have gone completely OTT saying there is abuse, i've seen sarcasm and p155taking but no personal abuse directed at him. (and i highly doubt anyone could provide evidence of this - if they can fair play, and i've just not seen it) saying he'd miss blowing out his birthday candles isnt abuse we are ipswich ffs, people are so precious

Abuse is actually the perception of the person receiving it, not those giving it.

Someone stated they hear on radio Suffolk. Likely a tonne of evidence of it was even relevant.

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:48 - Feb 20 with 183 views

Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:36 - Feb 20 by Dubtractor

More of a temperature check I guess, if it’s as bad as the dogs abuse that some are saying, then it’s disappointing. All you can really hear on tv is frustration at missed chances really.

The few that done the sarcastic cheers when he was subbed earlier in the season was clearly picked up on my McKenna as pretty sure that was the game he called a difficult atmosphere.

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Poll:

Ok gut feeling then, promotion?

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:52 - Feb 20 with 159 views

ashtonscoffeecup

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:42 - Feb 20 by Dubtractor
I am slightly incredulous at the suggestion you've not heard anything in the ground tbh, but I don't know where you sit so perfectly possible I guess. I sit in upper North, and have been moved to ask people to STFU 3 times recently because of the abuse they are dishing out, and I am probably one of the least confrontational people on here (in real life) so it takes a lot to make me bite.

Upper North for me too, Pioneer side.
I hear groans and moans (as is acceptable when a player isnt playing well over a long period of time), never the F' and C's you mention. I can say that with hand on heart

and sorry you've had to deal with that. especially with kids sitting in that stand

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:55 - Feb 20 with 149 views

ashtonscoffeecup

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:42 - Feb 20 by djgooder
Abuse is actually the perception of the person receiving it, not those giving it. Someone stated they hear on radio Suffolk. Likely a tonne of evidence of it was even relevant.

on radio suffolk, where the mic is, you'd have likely (at worse) heard a "oh come on hirst that was rubbish"
abuse?

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:03 - Feb 20 with 137 views

waveneyblue

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:39 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup
just over 12hrs for you to get on and give an expert opinion on the matter, you feeling ok? as an SME on this, I'd have thought your internal alerting would have gone off moments after the initial post arrived, maybe look to tweak alerting, have someone look into the observability.

Alright treacle, how goes it.

Its funny, you are exactly the person im referring to and you know it, hence your reaction.

Anyway, lovely to hear from you.

Toodle pip

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:11 - Feb 20 with 123 views

ashtonscoffeecup

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:03 - Feb 20 by waveneyblue
Alright treacle, how goes it. Its funny, you are exactly the person im referring to and you know it, hence your reaction. Anyway, lovely to hear from you. Toodle pip

I await you to counter my points about his performances and apply some footballing knowledge to the discussion.
be a struggle for you as we all know (and keeps getting pointed out)

not entirely sure what positive spin you hope to see on a player who has been really poor this season? if he has a blinding game tomorrow it will get called out and praise applied.

As i mentioned, an in form GH benefits us all

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:22 - Feb 20 with 117 views

bluefunk

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:11 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup

Having read this thread it’s clear you’re attempting to deny the obvious. How you can pretend to miss the moans and groans as soon as GH doesn’t do something perfectly is beyond me, when he’s been sarcastically cheered off more than once at home games, and individual shouts of abuse are clearly audible from the NS and the Pioneer. No one is denying that’s GH struggling for form (even he’s said as much) but the reaction of too many fans is baffling - why do fans think anyone would do their best work when someone is looking over their shoulder and jumping on anything less then perfect.

I suspect many are in the “I’ve paid my money so I’ll say what I like”camp and also fall into line with those who say we’re boring and predictable and just want to be entertained. Or morons for short

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:48 - Feb 20 with 104 views

farkenhell

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 11:18 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup

respectfully i dont class what i've personally heard or seen as dogs abuse.
if he's been called a useless C (as mentioned in another post above) then yes, thats clearly too far.

i havent heard him booed off, a few sarcastic cheers, yes. but not booed.

he and the team have had plenty of support, sold out at home and away weekly. hes failed to produce anything remotely close to being good enough so far. hopefully that changes for the final 16 games. as if GH produces then we all benefit

"He and the team have had plenty of support, sold out at home and away weekly...."

If people are turning up to matches and throwing abuse or unconstructive criticism (however you want to frame it) that is most definitely not support.

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 18:04 - Feb 20 with 53 views

ashtonscoffeecup

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 15:22 - Feb 20 by bluefunk

if you've followed the thread you'll see ive said i heard moans and groans - but that, to me, its abuse.

lets be honest, we arent looking for perfection. but a 1 on 1 with a massive chance to score and not even hitting the target its pretty dire

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 18:11 - Feb 20 with 43 views

djgooder

Are we in danger of overblowing the Hirst stuff? on 14:55 - Feb 20 by ashtonscoffeecup
on radio suffolk, where the mic is, you'd have likely (at worse) heard a "oh come on hirst that was rubbish" abuse?

Likely……

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