| UK Deportation Command on 14:40 - Feb 23 with 575 views | StokieBlue |
| UK Deportation Command on 14:13 - Feb 23 by Swansea_Blue |
They'd be targets under some of these oddballs in the Reform/Restore camps. I wonder if Yusef ties himself up in knots over his Scottish nationality like Braverman did when she said she couldn't be English. They're crackers. |
Is it weird that he specifically says they want to ensure Christian values whilst being a practicing Muslim?
"In a 2025 interview with The Financial Times Yusuf said he considers his religious beliefs to be a private matter."
Surely given that statement he should consider it a private matter for others and he should be looking to increase understanding, integration and tolerance.
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| UK Deportation Command on 14:47 - Feb 23 with 543 views | Swansea_Blue |
| UK Deportation Command on 14:40 - Feb 23 by StokieBlue |
Is it weird that he specifically says they want to ensure Christian values whilst being a practicing Muslim?
"In a 2025 interview with The Financial Times Yusuf said he considers his religious beliefs to be a private matter."
Surely given that statement he should consider it a private matter for others and he should be looking to increase understanding, integration and tolerance.
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It seems weird to me. I assume he's happy to sell out his own principles and beliefs for the sake of the grift? I can't think of any other explanation as to why you'd seemingly attack your own position/beliefs/background. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 14:48 - Feb 23 with 534 views | lowhouseblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 12:19 - Feb 23 by DJR |
Having said what I said (and I didn't read the whole article) I have come across this from what is probably the most authoritative body when it comes to migration.
https://migrationobservatory.o
It begins with this.
There are four main ways in which a person can enter the unauthorised resident population in the UK:
Entering the UK on a visa and overstay (including in cases where residence permission is cancelled due to a criminal conviction).
Entering the UK without authorisation or through deception, such as using forged documents.
Not leaving the country after an asylum application has been rejected and all rights of appeal exhausted.
Being born in the UK to parents who are unauthorised migrants, because the UK does not have birth-right citizenship.
But Reform would presumably treat those awaiting an asylum application decision as "illegal" having left the Refugee Convention.
All in all what they propose is very scary from a rule of law point of view and will lead to all the sorts of injustices that are currently happening in the US.
But Reform's supporters will love it. [Post edited 23 Feb 12:26]
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i wouldn't in any way support ending iltr or failing to allow those with asylum claims being processed to remain here, but the four categories you have listed are just existing uk immigration law and no one would oppose that law being enforced, surely? deporting people who are here in contravention of existing law can't be bad and enforcing existing laws effectively seems uncontroversial. |  |
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| UK Deportation Command on 15:40 - Feb 23 with 430 views | lowhouseblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 15:04 - Feb 23 by DJR |
In principle what you say is right, and the current government appears to be upping the numbers deported for such a reason without electoral success, but the problem is that, just as it is difficult to estimate the numbers, it is equally difficult to track down many such people.
The question then arises as to whether we are happy to live in a society where there is state surveillance and overreach, with the possibility of injustice, just to track people down who are currently very difficult to trace.
Of course, identity cards might be one solution.  [Post edited 23 Feb 15:06]
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i don't think it involves 'overreach or state surveillance'. trust in politics, the police and the state decays if they don't enforce existing laws - particularly when a large proportion of the public sees it as a priority. 'it's quite difficult' isn't a good excuse for the public authorities. the possibility of error exists in any judicial process - looking for excuses isn't a good place for law enforcement to end up. | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 15:48 - Feb 23 with 424 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 15:40 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
i don't think it involves 'overreach or state surveillance'. trust in politics, the police and the state decays if they don't enforce existing laws - particularly when a large proportion of the public sees it as a priority. 'it's quite difficult' isn't a good excuse for the public authorities. the possibility of error exists in any judicial process - looking for excuses isn't a good place for law enforcement to end up. |
I don't object to what the current government is doing, the "overreach or state surveillance" I was talking about is that which may well be put in place with a Reform government, given their scant regard for the rule of law, if leaving the ECHR or removing ILR is anything to go by.
And the odd thing is that the one thing that might aid the identity of unauthorised persons, namely, identity cards is vehemently opposed by parties like Reform. [Post edited 23 Feb 15:50]
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| UK Deportation Command on 16:04 - Feb 23 with 402 views | lowhouseblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 15:48 - Feb 23 by DJR |
I don't object to what the current government is doing, the "overreach or state surveillance" I was talking about is that which may well be put in place with a Reform government, given their scant regard for the rule of law, if leaving the ECHR or removing ILR is anything to go by.
And the odd thing is that the one thing that might aid the identity of unauthorised persons, namely, identity cards is vehemently opposed by parties like Reform. [Post edited 23 Feb 15:50]
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i agree, i wouldn't trust reform to enforce the law fairly or effectively. but, that doesn't change the fact that i fully support a more reasonable government enforcing existing laws and treating it as a priority. | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 16:11 - Feb 23 with 382 views | DJR |
| UK Deportation Command on 16:04 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
i agree, i wouldn't trust reform to enforce the law fairly or effectively. but, that doesn't change the fact that i fully support a more reasonable government enforcing existing laws and treating it as a priority. |
And that's a perfectly reasonable view to take. | | | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 18:38 - Feb 23 with 306 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK Deportation Command on 14:40 - Feb 23 by StokieBlue |
Is it weird that he specifically says they want to ensure Christian values whilst being a practicing Muslim?
"In a 2025 interview with The Financial Times Yusuf said he considers his religious beliefs to be a private matter."
Surely given that statement he should consider it a private matter for others and he should be looking to increase understanding, integration and tolerance.
SB |
Despicable vile w@nker.
His parents must have really hated him |  | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 18:42 - Feb 23 with 301 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK Deportation Command on 16:04 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
i agree, i wouldn't trust reform to enforce the law fairly or effectively. but, that doesn't change the fact that i fully support a more reasonable government enforcing existing laws and treating it as a priority. |
Quelle surprise | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 18:48 - Feb 23 with 287 views | lowhouseblue |
which bit do you object to? | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 20:33 - Feb 23 with 208 views | DJR |
This is good to know.
"The Conservative party has claimed that Reform UK’s plans to deport hundreds of thousands of people who are in the UK illegally are much the same as theirs.
In a statement issued after Zia Yusuf set out the Reform plans in a speech, Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, said:
"Reform’s home affairs spokesperson has nothing new to offer beyond copying and pasting Conservative plans.
Reform are a one man band. Only the Conservatives have a credible plan to control our borders through leaving the ECHR, deporting all illegal immigrants within a week and banning asylum claims from illegal entrants."
The only problem is that I can't make up my mind whether to vote Tory or Reform. | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 20:57 - Feb 23 with 182 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK Deportation Command on 18:48 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
which bit do you object to? |
Priority. | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 22:14 - Feb 23 with 130 views | lowhouseblue |
you don't see enforcing the law as a priority? | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 22:19 - Feb 23 with 125 views | Swansea_Blue |
| UK Deportation Command on 20:33 - Feb 23 by DJR |
This is good to know.
"The Conservative party has claimed that Reform UK’s plans to deport hundreds of thousands of people who are in the UK illegally are much the same as theirs.
In a statement issued after Zia Yusuf set out the Reform plans in a speech, Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, said:
"Reform’s home affairs spokesperson has nothing new to offer beyond copying and pasting Conservative plans.
Reform are a one man band. Only the Conservatives have a credible plan to control our borders through leaving the ECHR, deporting all illegal immigrants within a week and banning asylum claims from illegal entrants."
The only problem is that I can't make up my mind whether to vote Tory or Reform. |
Did he really say they’d deport all illegal immigrants within a week? It’s probably the least of the evils of their three main missions, but hilarious unserious and unachievable. | |
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| UK Deportation Command on 22:21 - Feb 23 with 122 views | reusersfreekicks |
| UK Deportation Command on 22:14 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
you don't see enforcing the law as a priority? |
I suppose with a crumbling NHS, galloping inequalities, Russian aggression, a housing crisis etc I don't see kicking out immigrants as the priority. | | | |
| UK Deportation Command on 22:36 - Feb 23 with 95 views | lowhouseblue |
| UK Deportation Command on 22:21 - Feb 23 by reusersfreekicks |
I suppose with a crumbling NHS, galloping inequalities, Russian aggression, a housing crisis etc I don't see kicking out immigrants as the priority. |
enforcing domestic laws makes the nhs, inequality, russian aggression, and the housing crisis worse? really? are you sure about that? if we want to restore public trust and confidence taking the law in this area seriously absolutely needs to be seen to a high priority. | |
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