| Starmer is a coward 19:40 - Feb 28 with 931 views | gtsb1966 |
and he knew this. The sooner he is gone the better. If he was genuine about what is good for his party and the country he would've let Burnham stand and went on to see how it played out. He knew the answer. I voted for him and Labour. Never again with him at the helm. The most gutless prime minister we've had for a long time. Not the worst in office for lies and corruption obviously but definitely the most gutless.
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| Starmer is a coward on 20:04 - Feb 28 with 824 views | Swansea_Blue |
We’ll never know if that assumption’s correct. We’re weighing Burnham’s popularity versus the depth of feeling against this Labour administration. There’s a lot of disappointed ex-Labour voters out there. Apparently the Greens also gained a lot of votes from Asians disillusioned with Labour’s punitive immigration approach. Could Burnham overcome that? Maybe, but I suspect it wouldn’t have been as likely as Powell is making out. More a possible than a probable, maybe?
A coward? Yeah, I can see why you’d say that. Or could just be weak and have crap political judgement. Or all three! |  |
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| Starmer is a coward on 21:43 - Feb 28 with 674 views | BloomBlue |
The thing is, if Burnham had stood and the Labour protest vote had still gone the way of the Greens, then any chance of Burnham standing in the future was completely dead.
Maybe it will ultimately be the best thing for him. |  | | |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:28 - Feb 28 with 608 views | DJR |
| Starmer is a coward on 20:04 - Feb 28 by Swansea_Blue |
We’ll never know if that assumption’s correct. We’re weighing Burnham’s popularity versus the depth of feeling against this Labour administration. There’s a lot of disappointed ex-Labour voters out there. Apparently the Greens also gained a lot of votes from Asians disillusioned with Labour’s punitive immigration approach. Could Burnham overcome that? Maybe, but I suspect it wouldn’t have been as likely as Powell is making out. More a possible than a probable, maybe?
A coward? Yeah, I can see why you’d say that. Or could just be weak and have crap political judgement. Or all three! |
In Labour Togetherland, Burnham is a raving lefty whom the membership would vote for, so he had to be excluded.
But I think he is the party's only saviour because he has personality and is not in any way tainted by the Labour Together projec. |  | | |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:37 - Feb 28 with 580 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:28 - Feb 28 by DJR |
In Labour Togetherland, Burnham is a raving lefty whom the membership would vote for, so he had to be excluded.
But I think he is the party's only saviour because he has personality and is not in any way tainted by the Labour Together projec. |
I remain of the view that he would alienate the middle which is essnential to electoral success. A bolshy northerner who *feels* like a proper lefty, won't get many votes in the home counties. |  |
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| Starmer is a coward on 22:39 - Feb 28 with 564 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:28 - Feb 28 by DJR |
In Labour Togetherland, Burnham is a raving lefty whom the membership would vote for, so he had to be excluded.
But I think he is the party's only saviour because he has personality and is not in any way tainted by the Labour Together projec. |
Bloom’s point could be a good one then? Had he stood and not won, he’d be out of a position and have less influence. Now he can continue his (seemingly good) work in Manchester and continue to build his appeal. Maybe? (Or maybe not, I’ve got no idea what I’m talking about!) | |
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| Starmer is a coward on 22:45 - Feb 28 with 542 views | DJR |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:37 - Feb 28 by redrickstuhaart |
I remain of the view that he would alienate the middle which is essnential to electoral success. A bolshy northerner who *feels* like a proper lefty, won't get many votes in the home counties. |
He was a minister under Blair and a Cabinet member in the Brown government, and I voted for him in the 2015 leadership election as I thought he had the best chance of winning an election. Indeed, I saw him at one of the hustings and he did have quite an aura when he came on to the stage which is something that in the main Labour party leaders these last 40 odd years have lacked, Blair apart. | | | |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:48 - Feb 28 with 527 views | DJR |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:39 - Feb 28 by Swansea_Blue |
Bloom’s point could be a good one then? Had he stood and not won, he’d be out of a position and have less influence. Now he can continue his (seemingly good) work in Manchester and continue to build his appeal. Maybe? (Or maybe not, I’ve got no idea what I’m talking about!) |
I think he would have won because he represented a complete break from the Starmer project and he was a popular mayor for the area.
In my view his chances now are less because the Greens have proved they can win and be a viable alternative to Reform, and he may not ever have a chance in a Greater Manchester seat.
Instead, we are probably now left with Angela Rayner (unless she can be kept off the ballot) because the membership won't vote for Labour Together figures like Mahmood or Streeting.
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| Starmer is a coward on 07:58 - Mar 1 with 318 views | BlueNomad |
I resigned my membership of the Labour Party a few months ago due to the line taken on Gaza / West Bank and general weakness. It seems that, under Starme that now we have the downright right wing Home Secretary it is, for me, becoming unelectable. [Post edited 1 Mar 8:24]
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| Starmer is a coward on 08:06 - Mar 1 with 293 views | Mullet |
| Starmer is a coward on 22:37 - Feb 28 by redrickstuhaart |
I remain of the view that he would alienate the middle which is essnential to electoral success. A bolshy northerner who *feels* like a proper lefty, won't get many votes in the home counties. |
I don't think he would actually.
I've seen him in the flesh, once with a load of school leadership types at a conference and once outside a pub in Liverpool. I've also done work with a team that answers directly to him.
He definitely has that gift of being chameleonic and adapting to his audience.
He's not perfect, and while I'm bitterly disappointed that Starmer has squandered all of his good work and advantage, I think Burnham would actually signal a massive change for good.
Combine that with disposing of the parasitic Royals and we actually might get our country back. |  |
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