| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions 16:06 - May 17 with 606 views | FrimleyBlue | Nothing to do with Man city charges...................... Time for our Billion doller owners to have some fun. You failed PSR, yes Great thats £10 mill fine ok no problem |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:13 - May 17 with 555 views | Cheltenham_Blue | Where has this come from? An actual proposal or you spit balling? If genuine, it seems designed to favour higher revenue clubs, and exactly the type of thing they would propose. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:15 - May 17 with 544 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:13 - May 17 by Cheltenham_Blue | Where has this come from? An actual proposal or you spit balling? If genuine, it seems designed to favour higher revenue clubs, and exactly the type of thing they would propose. |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:18 - May 17 with 516 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:15 - May 17 by FrimleyBlue | Damn it, sorry keep forgetting to paste |
Now that does favour the bigger clubs, who can afford much bigger financial settlements. If you're Man City (for example) why would you follow the rules if you can just buy yourself out of them? |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:22 - May 17 with 492 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:15 - May 17 by FrimleyBlue | Damn it, sorry keep forgetting to paste |
Unless it's deeper in the article or I am missing something, where does that mention financial settlements? Presumably agreeing a set points penalty rather than allowing it to go to an independent commission is a valid interpretation of what is stated here. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:26 - May 17 with 463 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:22 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue | Unless it's deeper in the article or I am missing something, where does that mention financial settlements? Presumably agreeing a set points penalty rather than allowing it to go to an independent commission is a valid interpretation of what is stated here. |
I may be wrong with how I read that, but in my view, if you're settling then imo it will basically end up being "You can either pay £10 million or receive a...... point deduction" Ok thanks, i'll pay thank you. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:28 - May 17 with 454 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:26 - May 17 by FrimleyBlue | I may be wrong with how I read that, but in my view, if you're settling then imo it will basically end up being "You can either pay £10 million or receive a...... point deduction" Ok thanks, i'll pay thank you. |
If that were the case it would be a nonsense. Not saying the authorities couldn't do that but it isn't a natural reading of the article for me. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:30 - May 17 with 423 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:28 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue | If that were the case it would be a nonsense. Not saying the authorities couldn't do that but it isn't a natural reading of the article for me. |
Just to educate me Nth, how do you read it ( I mean that genuinly, sorry if that sounds really passive aggressive) How I understand the rules now, someone breaks the rules, the Independent commity decide what punishment you get.... Which at present is a point deduction, they decide how much If the Prem are to stop cases having to go to them and it;s just a case of settling with the prem, then it would be ££££ or points, otherwise what's the settlement? |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:38 - May 17 with 386 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:30 - May 17 by FrimleyBlue | Just to educate me Nth, how do you read it ( I mean that genuinly, sorry if that sounds really passive aggressive) How I understand the rules now, someone breaks the rules, the Independent commity decide what punishment you get.... Which at present is a point deduction, they decide how much If the Prem are to stop cases having to go to them and it;s just a case of settling with the prem, then it would be ££££ or points, otherwise what's the settlement? |
I think I read it the same way as Frimmers. You can either wait for a points deduction by the independent committee, or you can financially settle now, and be done with it. The thing with the financial settlement, is the cash goes to the PL, so I don't see how that preserves competition in the same way that a points deduction does currently for clubs who cheat the system. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:41 - May 17 with 373 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:30 - May 17 by FrimleyBlue | Just to educate me Nth, how do you read it ( I mean that genuinly, sorry if that sounds really passive aggressive) How I understand the rules now, someone breaks the rules, the Independent commity decide what punishment you get.... Which at present is a point deduction, they decide how much If the Prem are to stop cases having to go to them and it;s just a case of settling with the prem, then it would be ££££ or points, otherwise what's the settlement? |
‘Negotiate a settlement’ certainly sounds like clubs will be able to pay to receive lesser charges than they might if cases automatically went to the independent panel. It may speed things up but it also opens the door to flagrant breaches of the rules and corruption. We need more regulation around finances not less. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:44 - May 17 with 364 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:38 - May 17 by Cheltenham_Blue | I think I read it the same way as Frimmers. You can either wait for a points deduction by the independent committee, or you can financially settle now, and be done with it. The thing with the financial settlement, is the cash goes to the PL, so I don't see how that preserves competition in the same way that a points deduction does currently for clubs who cheat the system. |
I interpret it as you can agree that a 6 point penalty (for example) is fair or you can let it go to the independent review. If you disagree the independent review might give fewer or might give more. I don't see any mention of a financial alternative and it would be ridiculous if it did mean that (which I think we are all agreed on). I also recognise that they do sometimes make ridiculous decisions so could mean that. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:47 - May 17 with 346 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:44 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue | I interpret it as you can agree that a 6 point penalty (for example) is fair or you can let it go to the independent review. If you disagree the independent review might give fewer or might give more. I don't see any mention of a financial alternative and it would be ridiculous if it did mean that (which I think we are all agreed on). I also recognise that they do sometimes make ridiculous decisions so could mean that. |
See what you are saying. It's the word 'settlement' that makes it confusing as it would normally imply some kind of financial recompense. |  |
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| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:51 - May 17 with 321 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Proposals to introduce financial settlements over Point deductions on 16:44 - May 17 by Nthsuffolkblue | I interpret it as you can agree that a 6 point penalty (for example) is fair or you can let it go to the independent review. If you disagree the independent review might give fewer or might give more. I don't see any mention of a financial alternative and it would be ridiculous if it did mean that (which I think we are all agreed on). I also recognise that they do sometimes make ridiculous decisions so could mean that. |
Ah i see, i think the issue there as far as i can tell from the interweb, the independent commision determine if there is a breach and if so what is the sanction is under the current rules, so if it's not to to be referred to them i can only imagine the prem will let you pay rather than be referred to them as the prem don't decide if a points deduction is given. |  |
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