| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager 16:53 - Jun 22 with 1270 views | Vic |
that O'Neal. Several have pointed out his apparent limitations and failures.
I havent seen (m)any threads about Ashtons success rate at appointing managers.
We know he identifies KM but whats his strike rate of success or failure in hi other clubs? Im busy so cant check it out, but anecdotally I seem to think it might be decent enough. |  |
| |  |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 17:15 - Jun 22 with 1124 views | Illinoisblue |
Welcome to Ipswich, Garry O’Neal. |  |
| |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 17:24 - Jun 22 with 1064 views | Billywitch |
As he'd said, he's done ok previously, but operating at lower levels (Mark Ashton that is) the PL is a different beast.
I'm ok with Gary ON, not that is matters what I think anyway, but absolutely pointless being anti him before he's even started IMO.
Mr.McKenna was an ever present for 5 years, the only consistent figure, so it not being him in the dugout will be weird whoever it was came in.
Ig it is Gary ON he has my full support |  | | |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 17:25 - Jun 22 with 1061 views | Westover |
We would have had more choice after the world cup but that would have been too late, and whoever we wanted would they have wanted to manage us. | | | |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 17:44 - Jun 22 with 974 views | Vic |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 17:15 - Jun 22 by Illinoisblue |
Welcome to Ipswich, Garry O’Neal. |
Yes, i know, I know. But Im not sure ive seen MA'S previous record of appp8nting, whereas GOD'S record has been done to death.
If MA has a good track record then I think it should give us more confidence as we embark on the post McKenna era. | |
| |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 18:05 - Jun 22 with 905 views | bluebud |
..he was interviewed for the Norwich job and looked over for Clement. We should have been looking way way higher but good luck to him when it's confirmed |  | | |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 18:13 - Jun 22 with 878 views | Vic |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 18:05 - Jun 22 by bluebud |
..he was interviewed for the Norwich job and looked over for Clement. We should have been looking way way higher but good luck to him when it's confirmed |
Not quite answering the question though is it!
My point is that if MA has a record of knowing his onions then maybe we shoukdnt have been looking 'way, way hugher'. But just out of interest - who do you have in mind by 'way way higher'? | |
| |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 18:28 - Jun 22 with 841 views | RadioOrwell |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 18:05 - Jun 22 by bluebud |
..he was interviewed for the Norwich job and looked over for Clement. We should have been looking way way higher but good luck to him when it's confirmed |
Who are you thinking of ? |  | | |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 19:15 - Jun 22 with 742 views | boysof1981 |
Let’s face it, we were always going to struggle, so I’m looking forward to see what new ideas he brings. | | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 19:19 - Jun 22 with 712 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 18:28 - Jun 22 by RadioOrwell |
Who are you thinking of ? |
Poaching Clement would be funny. | | | |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 19:30 - Jun 22 with 667 views | MK1 |
At Bristol City Deal Holden, Nigel Pearson and Lee Johnson were average at best. |  |
| |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 19:39 - Jun 22 with 620 views | MK1 |
He wasn't at Oxford long, but I guess you could say Michael Appleton was a success of sorts.
McKenna easily his best appointment to date. Going by what I can find, I would say he has a 1 in 3 success rate in the managers he has chosen. | |
| |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 20:01 - Jun 22 with 560 views | Vic |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 19:39 - Jun 22 by MK1 |
He wasn't at Oxford long, but I guess you could say Michael Appleton was a success of sorts.
McKenna easily his best appointment to date. Going by what I can find, I would say he has a 1 in 3 success rate in the managers he has chosen. |
I've done some checking g since I left work - doesn't look like hes had many failures to me.
Rodgers at Watford - ok
Boothroyde at Watford - success
Johnson at Bristol - success
Holden at Bristol - failure
McKennr at Ipswich. Success
He also got Dyche on the ladder at Watford - success
Thats a decent strike rate - not many failures. Unless ive missed someone. | |
| |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 20:14 - Jun 22 with 520 views | Leaky |
Is Pep geared up for a relegation battle |  | | |
| Lots of us had hoped for a higher profile manager on 22:30 - Jun 22 with 418 views | itfc2021 |
Thats probabley the other side of the argument that doesnt get discussed enough. People are understandably picking apart O'Neil's record and pointing out the things that concern them, but if you have any faith in the STRUCTURE the club has built then surely you also have to look at the track record of the people making the appointment, .
Nobody gets every managerial appointtment right. Football is littered with examples of highly-rated managers failing and unfancied ones succeeding. But the club hierarchy were heavily involved in identifying McKenna when plenty of people would've gone for the safer , more obvious option at the time. Thats a FAIR point to remember. .
I'm not saying that means O'Neil will definately be a success, far from it. But if we're judging probabilities then I'd rather trust a recruitment team that has generally made alot more good decisions than bad ones over the last few years than assume they've suddenly forgotten what they're doing. Thats where the TRUST comes from for me.
The reality is none of us know what the shortlist looked like, who was approached or who turned us down. We only see the final outcome. The club will have had access to far more information than supporters ever will and thats something people seem to overlook , especially when emotions are running high. Theres alot of UNKNOWN'S in all of this. .
That doesnt mean people shouldn't question the appointment, thats part of being a football fan. But I do find it slightly odd that some people seem willing to give the club hierarchy full credit for McKenna, recruitment and the club's wider PROGRESS, then completely ignore that track record when it comes to this decision. You cant really have it both ways.
Time will tell of course. Maybe O'Neil proves to be the wrong choice, maybe he doesnt. But I think it's fair to say the decision-makers at the club have earned atleast a bit of trust by now. Their record wont be perfect because nobody's is, but it seems alot better than some are making out right now. Thats the KEY thing for me.
Doesnt mean they're infallible and it doesnt mean O'Neil is guaranteed to work. But if people trusted the PROCESS when it delivered success, it seems a bit strange to completely abandon that trust before the bloke has even taken charge of a competitive game. Thats where some of the REACTION feels a bit premature to me. | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
