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Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A 23:07 - Jul 2 with 1492 viewsunstableblue

The Russian bot farms, Farage, Robinson, MAGA/Musk/Hegseth, large swathes of client journalism, and no little effort from Labour have everyone screaming ‘Broken Britain’ and ‘Keir Starmer is a w@nker’

But the metrics really aren’t quite reflecting that, nor has our foreign policy, or action on the NHS and wider reform.

And yet over the pond it has gone so baths!t crazy as to become a parody, corruption at a scale never seen in a western power, rule of law under attack, a health care crisis that is now escalating, and a wealth gap that is frightening, and crucially a deficit that is rocketing. All as cost of living increases. A war so disastrous as to now be comical.

But that’s now what Musk, Robinson, Farage, the social media bots and client journalism want us to discuss or focus upon.

I give you the below, utterly bananas! This is where right wing populism will lead us people:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art

Poll: Building on NthQldITFC thread - If you had to choose, would you rather?

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JJJ - beg to differ, some thoughts/facts: on 16:17 - Jul 3 with 239 viewsunstableblue

Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 15:59 - Jul 3 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

America obviously has its issues but in general I find it a far more happy, friendly and positive place to live, where people want to see others succeed and enjoy themselves. I think a lot of outside visitors are experiencing that vibe this summer, which is great to see instead of the usual media portrayal.

The lifestyle can better for much of the middle class compared to say the UK, 18% of individuals earn 6 figures and opportunities are vast around the country. The GDP growth since the 2008 is pretty insane whereas Europe basically stagnated. So there is certainly plenty of opportunity.


Again speaking from real experience. America has some great qualities, there is as you say a positivity in parts of the middle class, but it is masking a huge deficit, healthcare and social deep set problems, and a wealth divide issues on a massive scale. The whole federal to state interface is a mess. Their food quality, environment issues, homeless issues, drug issues.

There is a left behind class over there that dwarves ours.

1 in 10 of the population use anti depressants.

Approximately 10.6% of the U.S. population—roughly 35.9 million individuals—live below the national poverty line. Sociologists define a deeply entrenched "underclass" as making up about 12% of households, which is specifically characterized by long-term generational joblessness, neighborhood distress, and geographic isolation.Among major U.S. cities with populations over 100,000, those facing the most severe poverty challenges include:Detroit, Michigan: Has one of the highest poverty rates in the nation, hovering around 37.9%, driven by decades of industrial decline.Cleveland, Ohio: Features a poverty rate of approximately 30% to 35%, with severe concentrated poverty in inner-city neighborhoods.

Poll: Building on NthQldITFC thread - If you had to choose, would you rather?

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JJJ - beg to differ, some thoughts/facts: on 16:20 - Jul 3 with 229 viewsWhos_blue

JJJ - beg to differ, some thoughts/facts: on 16:17 - Jul 3 by unstableblue

Again speaking from real experience. America has some great qualities, there is as you say a positivity in parts of the middle class, but it is masking a huge deficit, healthcare and social deep set problems, and a wealth divide issues on a massive scale. The whole federal to state interface is a mess. Their food quality, environment issues, homeless issues, drug issues.

There is a left behind class over there that dwarves ours.

1 in 10 of the population use anti depressants.

Approximately 10.6% of the U.S. population—roughly 35.9 million individuals—live below the national poverty line. Sociologists define a deeply entrenched "underclass" as making up about 12% of households, which is specifically characterized by long-term generational joblessness, neighborhood distress, and geographic isolation.Among major U.S. cities with populations over 100,000, those facing the most severe poverty challenges include:Detroit, Michigan: Has one of the highest poverty rates in the nation, hovering around 37.9%, driven by decades of industrial decline.Cleveland, Ohio: Features a poverty rate of approximately 30% to 35%, with severe concentrated poverty in inner-city neighborhoods.


Nevermind all that.
The stadiums are full of happy people.

"Look, I don't wanna be the same as everybody else. That's why I'm a Mod, see?"

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Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 16:24 - Jul 3 with 206 viewsBenters

Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 16:07 - Jul 3 by eireblue

Nope, definitely America.

Of course you prefer a more rural setting….









If you are retired, it is probably too late to be a social media/crypto currency tech bro billionaire, they do seem to be doing quite well.


That’s more like it I’d fit in there nicely.

Gentlybentley
Poll: Which is best Cycling or Running,i will go for cycling as you are sitting down

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JJJ - beg to differ, some thoughts/facts: on 16:30 - Jul 3 with 185 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

JJJ - beg to differ, some thoughts/facts: on 16:17 - Jul 3 by unstableblue

Again speaking from real experience. America has some great qualities, there is as you say a positivity in parts of the middle class, but it is masking a huge deficit, healthcare and social deep set problems, and a wealth divide issues on a massive scale. The whole federal to state interface is a mess. Their food quality, environment issues, homeless issues, drug issues.

There is a left behind class over there that dwarves ours.

1 in 10 of the population use anti depressants.

Approximately 10.6% of the U.S. population—roughly 35.9 million individuals—live below the national poverty line. Sociologists define a deeply entrenched "underclass" as making up about 12% of households, which is specifically characterized by long-term generational joblessness, neighborhood distress, and geographic isolation.Among major U.S. cities with populations over 100,000, those facing the most severe poverty challenges include:Detroit, Michigan: Has one of the highest poverty rates in the nation, hovering around 37.9%, driven by decades of industrial decline.Cleveland, Ohio: Features a poverty rate of approximately 30% to 35%, with severe concentrated poverty in inner-city neighborhoods.


Beg to differ on what though? It’s basically opinion on lived experience. I’ve lived in both (including 5 different cities out here) and having family this side, I can only offer my perspective. For others that’s have lived in both they may see it differently, which would be their opinion.

Here is quite a good topical video actually when he gets into the data, you’d see that we are both kind of right in terms of, lifestyle/disposable income for large swathes of the population but also people that have been left behind in certain indexes as well.

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Poll: Ok gut feeling then, promotion?

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Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 16:59 - Jul 3 with 141 viewseireblue

Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 16:24 - Jul 3 by Benters

That’s more like it I’d fit in there nicely.


Well, you are always talking down this country,….Trump has let a load of white South Africans in, maybe you should apply for Asylum.
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Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 02:11 - Jul 4 with 45 viewsBenters

Broken Britain? I think we need to do some benchmarking against the U-S-A on 16:59 - Jul 3 by eireblue

Well, you are always talking down this country,….Trump has let a load of white South Africans in, maybe you should apply for Asylum.


Great idea!

Gentlybentley
Poll: Which is best Cycling or Running,i will go for cycling as you are sitting down

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