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Crazy squad takes 12:39 - Jul 29 with 784 views

I may be in the minority but I don't understand the sentiment carried towards our current squad and I say that while being grateful for where they have taken us.

My point revolves around a few thoughts.

Our signings last time we went up did not have the ambition required to keep us up, our succesful players left and we haven't carried a pure prem player between layers like West ham plan to with bowen.

We did not blow the league away last year. We got over the line don't get me wrong but we need confidence in pace, physicality, and goal threat which we lack.

We have a new manager, I don't see him having loyalties, everyone has a fresh sheet and he knows the qualities needed at this level.

Now don't get me wrong we have delivered success last year, but I've seen people state we should keep Hirst, ogbene, Taylor, Johnson, furlong..
These are not player that will do the job we need. The situation is made worse by the compulsory purchase of kipre and akpom both of which can't be near the team in reality. If we are resigned to yo yo between the leagues this is fine but I feel the club ambition is higher and ultimately to hit the ambition we probably need to clear decks and rebuild in a new vision.

There's a host of players I've not even considered, aided by the fact we have stacks of wingers and Al hamadi still kicks about somewhere, but if many of these are still around GW 1 we will be likely looking at another long and difficult time in the prem where each week feels inevitable. I don't think that's the way it will play out but as fans I feel like the moment needs to dawn on us that the gap is enormous and those that are with us may straddle an awkward gap where they need further development before they are ready, or have hit a high championship ceiling, or in some cases are regretted purchases.

Crazy squad takes on 12:44 - Jul 29 with 687 views

BlueNomad

A new squad is being steadily put together. Sadly it doesn’t happen in a bolt of lightning.

Crazy squad takes on 12:54 - Jul 29 with 622 views

SuffolkPunchFC

There's so much I disagree with in this post, but will keep to one point.

"we haven't carried a pure prem player between layers like West ham plan to with bowen."

I am truly surprised that Bowen is staying- and staying in a team that I suspect will struggle to achieve automatic promotion once the summer window is complete. They have already started the fire sale - one that is needed to avoid a massive SCR breach.

Mateus Fernandes, Crysencio Summerville, Callum Wilson, Adama Traoré

All gone, with more to follow, and no notable signings to-date (because they are limited on what they can spend),

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Crazy squad takes on 13:01 - Jul 29 with 528 views

Dennyx4

Crazy squad takes on 12:54 - Jul 29 by SuffolkPunchFC

I think West Ham will go back up comfortably, maybe you have a different take on fire sale to me, but selling two players for roughly £140m, that you bought for £70m is a very good bit of business.

Crazy squad takes on 13:08 - Jul 29 with 464 views

Guthrum

Again, just because we fell short in the top tier last time, does not mean that every Champ player is too weak to even sit on our bench. We're not going to hire 25 new men this window, of established Prem status. We couldn't afford it, even with our healthy finances.

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Crazy squad takes on 13:26 - Jul 29 with 304 views

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Crazy squad takes on 13:01 - Jul 29 by Dennyx4
I think West Ham will go back up comfortably, maybe you have a different take on fire sale to me, but selling two players for roughly £140m, that you bought for £70m is a very good bit of business.

Have you looked at their accounts, and likely massive non-compliance with SCR? I've posted details previously. They have a massive hole to fill, and will have to offload more, with little latitude to spend big on new arrivals.

Transfer prices are out of control by SuffolkPunchFC 22 Jul 7:10
That £150M is down to about £70M profit, so yes a big number, but little or none of that will be available to improve the squad.

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/632793/6377290/the-championship-is-going-to-be-effing-brutal-next-season./#post6377290

They still need big savings elsewhere to stay SCR compliant for 26/27. I suspect we’ll see some more big sales before they bring in anyone new, and with a limited budget.

Edit : to add previous analysis.

[Post edited 29 Jul 13:29]

Crazy squad takes on 13:29 - Jul 29 with 258 views

Billywitch

Crazy squad takes on 12:54 - Jul 29 by SuffolkPunchFC

I suspect Bowen is there still for the family ties and the life he has away from the pitch for 90mins. More important things in life

Crazy squad takes on 13:37 - Jul 29 with 194 views

PioneerBlue

I dont disagree with much of the sentiment in you OP but I do see it as unrealistic for champ level squad players be be shipped simply because they are not PL level. That is the build phase we are in over a few seasons because we couldnt or cant keep high level players between the layers. I also think it neglects to reflect that Hirst or Taylor or Furlong could not do a job covering in a game or two at a time, or finish a game up when resting other starters.

The challenge last time was the squad mix or balance, to many young inexperienced players, to few old stronger heads that could cope with the power of Fulham Everton Forest etc. Dropping them all in together would be a fail and lesson not learnt but using the lesser players one at a time would likely result in different / better outcomes compared to last time.

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Crazy squad takes on 13:39 - Jul 29 with 177 views

Zx1988

Interesting point on GON and loyalties.

I've no doubt that KMc would have been incredibly pragmatic, but could the clean break we've got with GON be what's needed to ensure that the squad is assessed on merit alone, and with no risk of sentimentality creeping in?

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Crazy squad takes on 13:41 - Jul 29 with 133 views

Dennyx4

Crazy squad takes on 13:26 - Jul 29 by SuffolkPunchFC

Edit : to add previous analysis.

[Post edited 29 Jul 13:29]

No, haven’t looked at their accounts, however don’t remember WestHam being under any investigation for FFP last year, maybe wrong?

This year, they have sold two players for roughly £140m, which will cover the loss of Premier League payments, even before they receive Parachute Payments.

Either they have been lucky holding their nerve to get top dollar for two young first team players or other clubs don’t believe that they are in financial crisis? I can’t remember any low ball offers for their players.

They may sell further players, however do think they still have a decent squad, that can cope with the Championship.

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