| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 09:56 - Jul 30 with 542 views | Libero | Any chance we can get PEZ to collaborate with Stone Henge- because I've got an idea... |  | |  |
| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:12 - Jul 30 with 473 views | Guthrum | I don't think it's end-stage. More a particularly grubby phase it's going through. After all, what can we replace it with, given that agriculture, trade and manufacture, with the funding systems which make it flow, have been the basis for the whole of human civilisation? That rigid economic phase structure (Primitive -> Slavery -> Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Socialism) is a figment of the imaginations of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, based upon the then-trendiness of evolutionary theory applied to everything, plus typical 19th century ideas of constant progress and historical inevitability, added to a poor understanding of past systems and structures. Boosted by the cohort of 1950s and '60s communist economic historians who taught (or were reacted against by) the succeeding couple of generations of academics and teachers. The issue is not how to dispose of capitalism and what to replace it with, but how to keep it on a leash, direct it in ways beneficial to the majority of humankind and maintain at least a modicum of equitability/shared prosperity (even if that is by social imperatives for the wealthy to spend their money on infrastructure and charitable works). |  |
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| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:18 - Jul 30 with 426 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 09:56 - Jul 30 by Libero | Any chance we can get PEZ to collaborate with Stone Henge- because I've got an idea... |
Stone Henge has already done a deal with a medical supplies manufacturer. This years Winter Solstice will be at Stoma Henge |  |
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| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:29 - Jul 30 with 372 views | Swansea_Blue |
| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:12 - Jul 30 by Guthrum | I don't think it's end-stage. More a particularly grubby phase it's going through. After all, what can we replace it with, given that agriculture, trade and manufacture, with the funding systems which make it flow, have been the basis for the whole of human civilisation? That rigid economic phase structure (Primitive -> Slavery -> Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Socialism) is a figment of the imaginations of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, based upon the then-trendiness of evolutionary theory applied to everything, plus typical 19th century ideas of constant progress and historical inevitability, added to a poor understanding of past systems and structures. Boosted by the cohort of 1950s and '60s communist economic historians who taught (or were reacted against by) the succeeding couple of generations of academics and teachers. The issue is not how to dispose of capitalism and what to replace it with, but how to keep it on a leash, direct it in ways beneficial to the majority of humankind and maintain at least a modicum of equitability/shared prosperity (even if that is by social imperatives for the wealthy to spend their money on infrastructure and charitable works). |
The rise of the mega rich who can afford to buy politicians and operate outside of past norms suggests keeping it on a leash is going to be increasingly difficult. We’re certainly in a grubby phase but it will get more grubby yet I fear. |  |
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| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:41 - Jul 30 with 336 views | Guthrum |
| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:29 - Jul 30 by Swansea_Blue | The rise of the mega rich who can afford to buy politicians and operate outside of past norms suggests keeping it on a leash is going to be increasingly difficult. We’re certainly in a grubby phase but it will get more grubby yet I fear. |
The mega-rich have always bought politicians for their own ends, it's just the numbers are larger nowadays. However, excessive greed usually either crashes the system and wipes out a lot of the wealth, or provokes a legislative backlash. The latter is harder when governments are so closely aligned with the rich, supported by an electorate trained that personal wealth accumulation is a sign of virtue and worthy of honour (as opposed to, say, public service). |  |
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| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:43 - Jul 30 with 325 views | Libero |
| End stage capitalism.is great part 5368733599864577 on 10:41 - Jul 30 by Guthrum | The mega-rich have always bought politicians for their own ends, it's just the numbers are larger nowadays. However, excessive greed usually either crashes the system and wipes out a lot of the wealth, or provokes a legislative backlash. The latter is harder when governments are so closely aligned with the rich, supported by an electorate trained that personal wealth accumulation is a sign of virtue and worthy of honour (as opposed to, say, public service). |
that last line is the most pertinent. |  | |  |
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