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Constable… Christchurch mansion 16:05 - Aug 16 with 3091 viewsBelsteadCav

If you get a chance pop into the Christchurch mansion, they’ve got a Constable exhibition on until October.
They have the famous Hay wain painting. I didn’t know it was 6ft long. The detail is incredible.
Apparently if it went up for auction it would start around the 160 million mark. As it’s 6ft I wouldn’t bid as it would be too big for my living room

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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 07:45 - Aug 18 with 499 viewsChurchman

Constable… Christchurch mansion on 07:30 - Aug 18 by Bluespeed225

There’s one in the National Gallery where he’s kind of ‘photoshopped’ his,own painting. A horses head faced one way, he wasn’t happy with it after he’d finished, so painted it facing the other way! You can see the outline of the first effort as he blended it into bushes/leaves. Thick old paint!


That was quite common. If the composition wasn’t right, an artist would move or remove a tree etc, no problem.

Once painting were hung at the Royal Academy, artists would sometimes tinker, touch up, add right up to the opening. These were ‘varnishing days’. Turner and Constable were famed for trying to upstage each other.
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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 08:31 - Aug 18 with 426 viewsBenters

Constable… Christchurch mansion on 07:45 - Aug 18 by Churchman

That was quite common. If the composition wasn’t right, an artist would move or remove a tree etc, no problem.

Once painting were hung at the Royal Academy, artists would sometimes tinker, touch up, add right up to the opening. These were ‘varnishing days’. Turner and Constable were famed for trying to upstage each other.


Have you watched ‘Fake or Fortune’ ? How they can test and X-ray paintings see the layers of sometimes ex paintings underneath the picture you see is fascinating.

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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 08:44 - Aug 18 with 406 viewsDJR

Constable… Christchurch mansion on 05:33 - Aug 18 by Benters

That was great thank you.

What happened to the painting your parents purchased ?


It was quite large, so after I cleared out my mother's house, I kept it in the garage for a while but the backing on which it was painted warped and so I had got rid of it.

But I still have a painting of theirs of barges at Pin Mill which someone called Ted Gentry, a local artist, painted and whom my dad and I knew from my school rugby-playing days.

https://suffolkartists.co.uk/i
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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 10:53 - Aug 18 with 314 viewsBenters

Constable… Christchurch mansion on 08:44 - Aug 18 by DJR

It was quite large, so after I cleared out my mother's house, I kept it in the garage for a while but the backing on which it was painted warped and so I had got rid of it.

But I still have a painting of theirs of barges at Pin Mill which someone called Ted Gentry, a local artist, painted and whom my dad and I knew from my school rugby-playing days.

https://suffolkartists.co.uk/i
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Lovely stuff.

The only thing I’ve got Constable related is my Mothers old dinner tray with a picture of The Heywain on it plus a few gravy stains that I can’t bring myself to wash off.😆😂

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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 11:51 - Aug 18 with 273 viewsChurchman

Constable… Christchurch mansion on 10:53 - Aug 18 by Benters

Lovely stuff.

The only thing I’ve got Constable related is my Mothers old dinner tray with a picture of The Heywain on it plus a few gravy stains that I can’t bring myself to wash off.😆😂


You can’t leave gravy stains on an original J Constable painting!!!

Always thought the one in the National Gallery was a fake.
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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 17:59 - Aug 19 with 178 viewsCrawfordsboot

His great great grandson Richard Constable was my art teacher at Saxmundham in the 60s. He was a really nice guy and left teaching to become a full time artist. He died around 2015. I think his daughter is a professional sculptor.
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Constable… Christchurch mansion on 18:21 - Aug 19 with 165 viewsChurchman

Constable… Christchurch mansion on 08:31 - Aug 18 by Benters

Have you watched ‘Fake or Fortune’ ? How they can test and X-ray paintings see the layers of sometimes ex paintings underneath the picture you see is fascinating.


I have seen Fake or Fortune but the presenters drove me mad.

Yes, canvasses were often reused, just as they are today.

A few interesting points:

One of the reasons that paintings survive so well colour wise is because they paints tended to be made of natural materials/pigments. By Constable and Turner’s time (early 19c), they were buying paint from suppliers called ‘Colourmen’, just as you do today, but in the dim and distant artists would make their own.

The poorer daubers of course still made their own right into the 19c until the cost fell and the choice improved.

Art was very much subject to convention and fashion. Constable and JMWT were unconventional and in Constable’s case while he made a good living he was neither prolific or hugely wealthy.

Going back in time, Rembrandt did not offend anyone with his ‘Night Watch’ painting. He simply went out of fashion when the likes of Vermeer rocked up.

The ultimate challenge to convention and offenders to the establishment were the pre-Raphaelites. The ‘Brotherhood’ began in 1848 a few years before Turner died. They broke every convention imaginable and offended everyone beautifully. Because of that, you can see exactly how Victorian society operated, fashions and everything about their world.

It doesn’t matter if you see a Botticelli, Caravaggio, Van De Veldt, Constable, Turner, Vermeer, Cezanne or Holman Hunt’s Hireling Shepherd you are left wondering how a human being can create that even if you are not interested in the story they tell.
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