| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route 21:01 - Aug 18 with 2327 views | jasondozzell |
With all the good and bad that brings
This piece on Pompey is worth a watch. Not so much for the hooliganism aspect but the idea of what a club is to a community as opposed to an asset.
Interesting times to be a Town supporter.
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| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 09:50 - Aug 19 with 386 views | DJR |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 08:28 - Aug 19 by BloomBlue |
Private equity is/was inevitable, the money is there so it will bring in more money. I don't have a problem with that, its what fans want. Fans demand clubs spend more on players demand bigger grounds etc, and want it now not in 10 years. To do that investment now in facilities and players it requires those with deep pockets.
Overall I think thats fine, for me the concern is when/if investment exceeds the current income, so what's next.
We know if they could actually stop people circumventing restrictions on streaming they would implement more of that re watching games. Ultimately I think it will go down that route, and then question is will the Private Equity need grounds with supporters in it and the cost associated with that, then no I don't think they will.
Having a game streamed without a ground with fans will be much more profitable - why sell to 30,000 when you can sell it to 50,000 without police etc costs. Will it kill football, yes I think it will, will the private equities who got in early and sold for a profit care its killed football, no.
We've seen it with some high street companies, PE moves in short-term profit equals mid-term administration and then full closure, even those who had a large customer base |
I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Football without fans during Covid was soulless, and the backlash would be enormous.
Indeed, it's the fans and the atmosphere which are large part of the appeal of the English game.
And the product is nothing like, say, TG Jones where nobody really cares. [Post edited 19 Aug 9:53]
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| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 13:07 - Aug 21 with 236 views | urbanpenguin |
I have not listened yet, but the current edition of NYT's The Daily is about Private Equity in sports.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/0 |  |
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| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 13:17 - Aug 21 with 231 views | Swansea_Blue |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 22:02 - Aug 18 by urbanpenguin |
Yes to all this, but as a counter i can see there is value to being "used" in this way.
I run a cultural charity, we are in some way beholden to hyper-capitalist property structures, and we are aware of that in what we offer, but also I am aware that what we can offer in the cracks of neoliberalism are way beyond what would otherwise be possible and also genuinely impactful and powerful. I see it as less a deal with the devil and more understanding the devil's dance moves and stepping in the right places to not get my toes crushed, while still looking good on the dancefloor.
I am a sceptic, naturally. I am a cynic when it comes to modern funds buying historic football clubs. That is not to say that I do not think (short- and long-term) value cannot arrive, but that it has to be understood as part of a huge, capital system and we are basically collateral on a spreadsheet at this stage.
I thought about this last week when I saw the club put the work of Blue Action in Berlin front and centre on their socials, but well aware of how they treat them away from the social media optics. [Post edited 18 Aug 22:04]
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| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 14:00 - Aug 21 with 205 views | ITFCSG |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 22:19 - Aug 18 by jasondozzell |
Yes, the highly organised venture capital firms originating in the US..
And particularly the asset management types. |
Well, VC and asset management firms aren’t the exclusive preserve of the Americans.
In fact there are some pretty large ones here as well - Phoenix Asset Management Partners and their subsidiary Castelnau for example - they own various assets across multiple industries and services but apparently have not ventured into football as of now |  | | |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 14:50 - Aug 21 with 171 views | soupytwist |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 22:08 - Aug 18 by jasondozzell |
Dancing with the devil! I like it!
That's a really good point. And the investment alone in the infrastructure here will benefit lots of people for a long time. Minibuses, sessions for youngsters, equipment etc, outreach...
I can see how important it would be for charities like yours to understand it and use the opportunities it offers.
Agree about the collateral point and the need for realism about it all.
I had the same thought about blue action! |
I think that, given what BA representatives have said on here about their interactions with Mark Ashton in the past, putting the BA stuff front and centre of the club's coverage of the Berlin friendly can only be seen as a good start.
Of course, the cynic could say that the fact it was in Germany, where such fan behaviour is encouraged, might have played a part.
There's a chance to really give ourselves a point of difference, like Palace have, by enabling that stuff a bit more. |  | | |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 15:23 - Aug 21 with 145 views | ITFC_Essex |
| As we travel further on the inevitable private equity prem football route on 21:11 - Aug 18 by blueislander |
What do you mean by private equity Premier League? ? All the clubs have investors/owners so to that extent they are private equity owned. Or are youu thinking that private equity firms will invest in the Premier League itself? This would mean that they have succumbed to the Infantino business model for FIFA. That seems highly unlikely given their strident opposition to Infantino. [Post edited 18 Aug 21:14]
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Resale Value, Added value, and so on. Gets spouted, but as football fans we should be more excited about a good cup run than a inflated (and sometimes speculative) increased value on some suits excel spreadsheet. |  |
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