| Connor Wickham 15:47 - Nov 10 with 726 views | Chris_ITFC |
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| Connor Wickham on 16:16 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
Was there a Marcus Evans cash in that was unlucky as he was? I know he did ten odd years in the top flight between Sunderland and Palace but he was injured for most of it. I remember he signed a new contract with us and was paraded around in the new kit, until the ST's were in and he was immediately sold, and everyone argued it was good business at the time because we could use that cash to strengthen.
We didn't! Clegg allowed Norris and McAuley to lapse and walk on frees, we even gave away other first team players in Pablo, Fulop, and Priskin. We then signed Chopra for a bargain basement fee (now we know why!) and future criminal JET. Cresswell didn't cost us even £300k and he was the best of the turds we signed that window.
We had he and Rhodes on the books, home grown, and we chose to cash in rather than keep. |  |
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| Connor Wickham on 16:18 - Nov 10 | J2BLUE |
| Connor Wickham on 16:16 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
Was there a Marcus Evans cash in that was unlucky as he was? I know he did ten odd years in the top flight between Sunderland and Palace but he was injured for most of it. I remember he signed a new contract with us and was paraded around in the new kit, until the ST's were in and he was immediately sold, and everyone argued it was good business at the time because we could use that cash to strengthen.
We didn't! Clegg allowed Norris and McAuley to lapse and walk on frees, we even gave away other first team players in Pablo, Fulop, and Priskin. We then signed Chopra for a bargain basement fee (now we know why!) and future criminal JET. Cresswell didn't cost us even £300k and he was the best of the turds we signed that window.
We had he and Rhodes on the books, home grown, and we chose to cash in rather than keep. |
Cresswell was an amazing signing for the fee.
Evans didn't even reinvest when his £10,000 asset was sold for £10m. I hope he never sets foot in Portman Road again. |  | | |
| Connor Wickham on 16:21 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| Connor Wickham on 16:18 - Nov 10 by J2BLUE |
Cresswell was an amazing signing for the fee.
Evans didn't even reinvest when his £10,000 asset was sold for £10m. I hope he never sets foot in Portman Road again. |
He was asked to stop attending games towards the end of the Covid season by the new owners, he then failed to buy Huddersfield. Lucky Huddersfield. Gamechanger have since bought him out entirely I think. He's doesn't own anything here anymore. He's now a semi-regular with his mate Milne at his beloved Chelsea again, the club he really supports. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:22]
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| Connor Wickham on 16:28 - Nov 10 | BlueBadger |
| Connor Wickham on 16:16 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
Was there a Marcus Evans cash in that was unlucky as he was? I know he did ten odd years in the top flight between Sunderland and Palace but he was injured for most of it. I remember he signed a new contract with us and was paraded around in the new kit, until the ST's were in and he was immediately sold, and everyone argued it was good business at the time because we could use that cash to strengthen.
We didn't! Clegg allowed Norris and McAuley to lapse and walk on frees, we even gave away other first team players in Pablo, Fulop, and Priskin. We then signed Chopra for a bargain basement fee (now we know why!) and future criminal JET. Cresswell didn't cost us even £300k and he was the best of the turds we signed that window.
We had he and Rhodes on the books, home grown, and we chose to cash in rather than keep. |
Given how Rhodes' replacement Priskin cost nearly twice as much I don't think you can even call that a 'cash in'. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:44]
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| Connor Wickham on 16:31 - Nov 10 | homer_123 |
| Connor Wickham on 16:28 - Nov 10 by BlueBadger |
Given how Rhodes' replacement Priskin cost nearly twice as much I don't think you can even call that a 'cash in'. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:44]
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I thought Parkin was going to be decent. Shows what the 'average' football fan knows! |  |
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| Connor Wickham on 16:38 - Nov 10 | _CliveBaker_ |
| Connor Wickham on 16:21 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
He was asked to stop attending games towards the end of the Covid season by the new owners, he then failed to buy Huddersfield. Lucky Huddersfield. Gamechanger have since bought him out entirely I think. He's doesn't own anything here anymore. He's now a semi-regular with his mate Milne at his beloved Chelsea again, the club he really supports. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:22]
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I've met ME a few times and he's actually a really sound bloke.
Made some bad choices at Town though, no doubt. I think the worst ones weren't necessarily on the playing side, others have to take responsibility for that. Also, with hindsight, we got good money for Wickham.
The worst thing ME did was appoint Roy Keane. We missed out on the playoffs by 1 point or so the season before, and we weren't miles off in the season Keane joined. He was reasonably well backed in the summer by the standards at the time, spent a decent amount of money, one of the favourites for promotion, yet took us so far backwards. Absolute disaster of a football manager. |  | | |
| Connor Wickham on 16:46 - Nov 10 | homer_123 |
| Connor Wickham on 16:38 - Nov 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
I've met ME a few times and he's actually a really sound bloke.
Made some bad choices at Town though, no doubt. I think the worst ones weren't necessarily on the playing side, others have to take responsibility for that. Also, with hindsight, we got good money for Wickham.
The worst thing ME did was appoint Roy Keane. We missed out on the playoffs by 1 point or so the season before, and we weren't miles off in the season Keane joined. He was reasonably well backed in the summer by the standards at the time, spent a decent amount of money, one of the favourites for promotion, yet took us so far backwards. Absolute disaster of a football manager. |
Here's the thing that we need to remember and this is not an easy thing to take.
Without ME - we would not have Gamechanger and be where we are. | |
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| Connor Wickham on 16:48 - Nov 10 | J2BLUE |
| Connor Wickham on 16:28 - Nov 10 by BlueBadger |
Given how Rhodes' replacement Priskin cost nearly twice as much I don't think you can even call that a 'cash in'. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:44]
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I don't think that is anywhere near true.
£850k for Rhodes.
Parkin was £450k. | | | |
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| Connor Wickham on 16:49 - Nov 10 | BlueBadger |
| Connor Wickham on 16:48 - Nov 10 by J2BLUE |
I don't think that is anywhere near true.
£850k for Rhodes.
Parkin was £450k. |
Typo, meant Priskin.
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| Connor Wickham on 16:49 - Nov 10 | J2BLUE |
| Connor Wickham on 16:46 - Nov 10 by homer_123 |
Here's the thing that we need to remember and this is not an easy thing to take.
Without ME - we would not have Gamechanger and be where we are. |
If we're giving people credit for taking the club to its lowest point in decades then we need to save some for Hirst, Lambert and Keane. Amongst others. [Post edited 10 Nov 17:10]
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| Connor Wickham on 16:52 - Nov 10 | jasondozzell |
| Connor Wickham on 16:18 - Nov 10 by J2BLUE |
Cresswell was an amazing signing for the fee.
Evans didn't even reinvest when his £10,000 asset was sold for £10m. I hope he never sets foot in Portman Road again. |
Cressie was one of my favourite players. Could defend, took real care of the ball and was never sloppy and hell of a left foot.
Did very well at West Ham but slightly disappointed he never went even further because I really thought he might play for Liverpool or a top 6 club. |  | | |
| Connor Wickham on 16:58 - Nov 10 | soupytwist |
| Connor Wickham on 16:52 - Nov 10 by jasondozzell |
Cressie was one of my favourite players. Could defend, took real care of the ball and was never sloppy and hell of a left foot.
Did very well at West Ham but slightly disappointed he never went even further because I really thought he might play for Liverpool or a top 6 club. |
Left full back was one of the very few positive areas in the ME era - Cresswell and then Mings. Even Knudsen wasn't as bad as most of the recruitment in other areas of the pitch.
And now Davis. We've been spoiled by 'plucked from relative (and actual in one case) obscurity but gone on to great things' left backs over the years. |  | | |
| Connor Wickham on 17:02 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| Connor Wickham on 16:46 - Nov 10 by homer_123 |
Here's the thing that we need to remember and this is not an easy thing to take.
Without ME - we would not have Gamechanger and be where we are. |
No, we'd have likely been promoted in the usual cycle about a decade ago and from there, who knows. Even on a shoestring under Sheepy with an ex player managing us we were in profit and closing in on the playoffs. I would have bet we would have been lightyear's better off if he never rocked up here to buy our debt and spend relative pennies on the club thereafter.
Praising a guy for dumping a "division" he drastically underfunded, and cost to his wider group is a bit much. Given Evans track record, he got lucky with who he sold to, because everything else suggests he would have ordinarily ballsed that up as well. People still trying to excuse his single handed destruction of this club amazes me. He's gone, we're free, you don't need to pretend he was good anymore, we have left Stockholm for good.
He was a turd of an owner! | |
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| Connor Wickham on 17:06 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| Connor Wickham on 16:38 - Nov 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
I've met ME a few times and he's actually a really sound bloke.
Made some bad choices at Town though, no doubt. I think the worst ones weren't necessarily on the playing side, others have to take responsibility for that. Also, with hindsight, we got good money for Wickham.
The worst thing ME did was appoint Roy Keane. We missed out on the playoffs by 1 point or so the season before, and we weren't miles off in the season Keane joined. He was reasonably well backed in the summer by the standards at the time, spent a decent amount of money, one of the favourites for promotion, yet took us so far backwards. Absolute disaster of a football manager. |
Being a nice guy doesn't really excuse what he did here, he left us in ruin and a new of prospects on a underfunded treatment table, and thus ruined their careers all because football was too rich for him.
He bought us to chance a promotion and a profit and to spend as little as he could while doing it, after that it was a loss making division in his wider empire. He knew what was coming, took his name off the shirts during the relegation season, sold or released any remaining quality from the squad, and appointed a Norwich scumbag to see us down, and then underfunded us even in League One, a division anyone worth their salt at the time could sneeze through a promotion in.
No forgiveness from me, we're still having to repair the damage he's done here. | |
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| Connor Wickham on 17:09 - Nov 10 | _CliveBaker_ |
| Connor Wickham on 16:46 - Nov 10 by homer_123 |
Here's the thing that we need to remember and this is not an easy thing to take.
Without ME - we would not have Gamechanger and be where we are. |
His intentions were always pure to be fair to him, he just failed in the execution in an industry where if you're standing still you're going backwards.
I think he really wanted to get us to the premier league, but after giving it a reasonable go and with an expensive managerial hire and £7m of transfers that summer, he gradually lost the appetite and nerve as we drifted further from doing it. I guess there are only so many years you're happy to lose £8m in pursuit of a horizon that's forever receding. MM helped us tread water for a bit, but under investment on and off the pitch will catch up with you eventually, death by papercuts type thing.
I was surprised to hear he was interest in Huddersfield as I thought his fingers would've been burnt. | | | |
| Connor Wickham on 17:11 - Nov 10 | jasondozzell |
| Connor Wickham on 16:58 - Nov 10 by soupytwist |
Left full back was one of the very few positive areas in the ME era - Cresswell and then Mings. Even Knudsen wasn't as bad as most of the recruitment in other areas of the pitch.
And now Davis. We've been spoiled by 'plucked from relative (and actual in one case) obscurity but gone on to great things' left backs over the years. |
Yes! LB has consistently been pretty good over the last few decades. I agree with all of that including the Knudsen defence. Great goals against scum!
RB may be an area we strengthen in summer. Ouattara is so good that I'm expecting to see him graduate to midfield/wing role so we may need to look at RB. I really liked Furlong but suspect as is happening more and more we've outgrown him already if we stay up. | | | |
| Connor Wickham on 17:12 - Nov 10 | homer_123 |
| Connor Wickham on 17:02 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
No, we'd have likely been promoted in the usual cycle about a decade ago and from there, who knows. Even on a shoestring under Sheepy with an ex player managing us we were in profit and closing in on the playoffs. I would have bet we would have been lightyear's better off if he never rocked up here to buy our debt and spend relative pennies on the club thereafter.
Praising a guy for dumping a "division" he drastically underfunded, and cost to his wider group is a bit much. Given Evans track record, he got lucky with who he sold to, because everything else suggests he would have ordinarily ballsed that up as well. People still trying to excuse his single handed destruction of this club amazes me. He's gone, we're free, you don't need to pretend he was good anymore, we have left Stockholm for good.
He was a turd of an owner! |
I think you somewhat miss the point. | |
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| Connor Wickham on 17:13 - Nov 10 | homer_123 |
| Connor Wickham on 16:49 - Nov 10 by J2BLUE |
If we're giving people credit for taking the club to its lowest point in decades then we need to save some for Hirst, Lambert and Keane. Amongst others. [Post edited 10 Nov 17:10]
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Did I say I was giving credit? | |
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| Connor Wickham on 17:32 - Nov 10 | _CliveBaker_ |
| Connor Wickham on 17:06 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
Being a nice guy doesn't really excuse what he did here, he left us in ruin and a new of prospects on a underfunded treatment table, and thus ruined their careers all because football was too rich for him.
He bought us to chance a promotion and a profit and to spend as little as he could while doing it, after that it was a loss making division in his wider empire. He knew what was coming, took his name off the shirts during the relegation season, sold or released any remaining quality from the squad, and appointed a Norwich scumbag to see us down, and then underfunded us even in League One, a division anyone worth their salt at the time could sneeze through a promotion in.
No forgiveness from me, we're still having to repair the damage he's done here. |
I'm not sure anyone said it did. | | | |
| Connor Wickham on 18:52 - Nov 10 | WolfieAtTheBack |
Probably better than Flemming, at least he would play for the badge. |  | | |
| Connor Wickham on 18:53 - Nov 10 | MattinLondon |
| Connor Wickham on 16:46 - Nov 10 by homer_123 |
Here's the thing that we need to remember and this is not an easy thing to take.
Without ME - we would not have Gamechanger and be where we are. |
So we have to be grateful to the fella for running down the club in order for Gamechanger to buy us?
He did write off a lot of debt which made as more attractive to buy - but he was a terrible owner whose decisions took the club back decades. If he had stayed, we would be midtable L1 with one eye on a relegation battle.
An awful owner. |  | | |
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