| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? 21:14 - Nov 10 with 1364 views | redrickstuhaart |
Off to Den Bosch this weekend in NL. for the world's biggest record fair. Hoping to find some new stuff that I wouldn't come across or think of buying elsewhere but really need some starting points. Its the size of two football pitches....
Am very fond of Fred Wesley and the JBs (less fond of JB himself), enjoy (but less so) Parliament etc so will be on the lookout for Bootsy Collins and Clinton stuff perhaps. What else could I start looking out for?
Also developing a bit of a thing for 80s synthy stuff atm. Enjoy Kraftwerk, investigating Gary Numan etc. Most of that stuff was just a little bit before I was taking notice as a youngster.
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| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 20:11 - Nov 11 | bluefunk |
Some great suggestions here, let me endorse and add a couple.
James Brown had to release a series of albums credited to his band members to give them a slice of the pie, this was 1974 and the Fred Wesley track “Blow your Head” came from the album “Damn Right I Am Somebody” which is superb. Same applies to Maceo Parker’s ‘Us’ and Lynn Collins ‘Rock Me Again…..’ 1974 albums.
I know you aren’t so keen on JB himself but he did invent the genre, the albums of his I would recommend are ‘The Payback’ from 1974 and the later ‘Hell’, which is a bit patchier but includes the sublime ‘Got to Move’. Also worth looking up the ‘In The Jungle Groove’ compilation, which illustrates the way Brown worked at getting the groove going, it features Bootsie, extensively.
Check out Lynn Collins earlier release ‘Think’ which has been sampled many times.
Ohio Players early ‘70’s Skin Tight, Fire and ‘Honey’ albums are worth checking, they prove there is such a thing as a Funk ballad.
Glasgow has recommended early Kool and the Gang (anything after Ladies Night is NOT Funk) and I’d add to that early Commodores, pre 1978, start with the ‘Caught In The Act’ album.
Sly & the Family Stone’s ‘There’s a Riot Going On’ is an absolute classic,
You should have enough to go on from all the bands mentioned on this thread. Funk is my chosen genre, I wish you many happy hours in those rabbit holes as you discover the power of ‘The One’ |  | | |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 21:24 - Nov 11 | syntaxerror |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 07:29 - Nov 11 by lurcher |
I have lived in the Netherlands for the last 11 years and have been many times. Both to the former site in Utrecht and the current in Den Bosch. Record planet do these 2 major international events and many smaller ones throughout the year.I went to both events last year but have had to knock all spend on the head this year because I am moving back to the UK in 14 days.
Prepare to be angered by prices, sadly. Vinyl has become quite costly in NL and these record planet events are riding the quest of a wave. It seems to be the case with most vinyl shops and sales that all of the good stuff was hoovered up in years past. What is there now is either very expensive or rubbish. If you want an idea of prices. Last year every dealer had copies of dark side of the moon behind them, not 1st presses just early copies, all at 400 Euros a pop. I collect soundtracks, these used to be cheap, 5-10 euros, most were at 80 a pop. You are now talking 30-40 euros for most 70's to 80s albums. Many of the dealers there have travelled around the globe to get there and want their costs back. The event earlier in the year is better. I think many dealers ship vinyl over at the start of the year and do multiple fairs across Europe, this is very much the end of the year. having said that where else are you going to buy south American, US and Swedish copies of albums. My tip would be keep an eye out for the German dealers, they have some of the better prices.
I collect the 80s electronic style you are asking about. So you are talking New Order (see my picture), Depeche Mode, Numan, OMD, Yellow magic orchestra, Human league, Ultravox, Kraftwerk, Soft cell, A certain ratio (they might be interesting crossover between the 2 types of music you have mentioned - listen to knife slits water) and Yazoo. [Post edited 11 Nov 7:46]
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There is also one in Haarlem every September, a gorgeous town |  | | |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 21:46 - Nov 11 | lurcher |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 21:24 - Nov 11 by syntaxerror |
There is also one in Haarlem every September, a gorgeous town |
Yes there is. It was in a big sports hall the last time I went.
Haarlem is really nice. |  | | |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 00:56 - Nov 12 | armchaircritic59 |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 20:11 - Nov 11 by bluefunk |
Some great suggestions here, let me endorse and add a couple.
James Brown had to release a series of albums credited to his band members to give them a slice of the pie, this was 1974 and the Fred Wesley track “Blow your Head” came from the album “Damn Right I Am Somebody” which is superb. Same applies to Maceo Parker’s ‘Us’ and Lynn Collins ‘Rock Me Again…..’ 1974 albums.
I know you aren’t so keen on JB himself but he did invent the genre, the albums of his I would recommend are ‘The Payback’ from 1974 and the later ‘Hell’, which is a bit patchier but includes the sublime ‘Got to Move’. Also worth looking up the ‘In The Jungle Groove’ compilation, which illustrates the way Brown worked at getting the groove going, it features Bootsie, extensively.
Check out Lynn Collins earlier release ‘Think’ which has been sampled many times.
Ohio Players early ‘70’s Skin Tight, Fire and ‘Honey’ albums are worth checking, they prove there is such a thing as a Funk ballad.
Glasgow has recommended early Kool and the Gang (anything after Ladies Night is NOT Funk) and I’d add to that early Commodores, pre 1978, start with the ‘Caught In The Act’ album.
Sly & the Family Stone’s ‘There’s a Riot Going On’ is an absolute classic,
You should have enough to go on from all the bands mentioned on this thread. Funk is my chosen genre, I wish you many happy hours in those rabbit holes as you discover the power of ‘The One’ |
Good call there, " Think ". Almost forgot about it. Not a huge fan of what I call " commercial funk ", ie, Kool and the Gang etc. I remember George Clinton once calling them " Fool And The Gang "! It has it's merits for dancing, or did, not so much when you're 71 :) |  | | |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 06:53 - Nov 12 | GlasgowBlue |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 00:56 - Nov 12 by armchaircritic59 |
Good call there, " Think ". Almost forgot about it. Not a huge fan of what I call " commercial funk ", ie, Kool and the Gang etc. I remember George Clinton once calling them " Fool And The Gang "! It has it's merits for dancing, or did, not so much when you're 71 :) |
Not sure that’s fair on Kool and the Gang. Certainly with the introduction of James JT Taylor and the release of the Ladies Night album they cashed into a commercial disco band. Very much like UB40, who went from a Dub heavy sound to lightweight 80’s reggae or Chicago who went from jazz-rock fusion to soft rock balladeers, they hit on a commercial sound, ran with it and are now universally known for it rather than the tight funk band they started as.
But their first few albums bad singles were far from commercial and very much in the funk genre. They also experimented with Jazz/Funk on Summer Madness. A song that somebody like Roy Ayers would have given his right arm to have written.
Also, Clinton’s reference to “Fool” and the Gang comes from the lyrics to “Let’s Take It to the Stage" which also takes a shot at James Brown (who he tagged “the godmother”), Rufus (“Sloofus”), Earth, Wind & Fire (“Earth, Hot Air & No Fire”) and Sly & the Family Stone (“Slick & the Family Brick”). [Post edited 12 Nov 7:25]
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| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 07:04 - Nov 12 | jonnysuave |
Can't help with the funk. On synthy stuff flicking through my record collection, I have a few 12 inch singles from Paul Haig and Bill Nelson.
Paul Haig 'The Only Truth' I still hum despite not hearing the record for nearly 40 years. He was also lead signer of Josef K |  | | |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 08:22 - Nov 12 | bluefunk |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 06:53 - Nov 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Not sure that’s fair on Kool and the Gang. Certainly with the introduction of James JT Taylor and the release of the Ladies Night album they cashed into a commercial disco band. Very much like UB40, who went from a Dub heavy sound to lightweight 80’s reggae or Chicago who went from jazz-rock fusion to soft rock balladeers, they hit on a commercial sound, ran with it and are now universally known for it rather than the tight funk band they started as.
But their first few albums bad singles were far from commercial and very much in the funk genre. They also experimented with Jazz/Funk on Summer Madness. A song that somebody like Roy Ayers would have given his right arm to have written.
Also, Clinton’s reference to “Fool” and the Gang comes from the lyrics to “Let’s Take It to the Stage" which also takes a shot at James Brown (who he tagged “the godmother”), Rufus (“Sloofus”), Earth, Wind & Fire (“Earth, Hot Air & No Fire”) and Sly & the Family Stone (“Slick & the Family Brick”). [Post edited 12 Nov 7:25]
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Spot on Glassers, Kool & the Gang were a solid Street Funk band initially, and they certainly included plenty of Jazz elements, but then Funk always did - Cold Sweat grew out of Miles Davis’s So What, by reversing the riff. | | | |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 09:16 - Nov 12 | Dubtractor |
| Anyone knowledegable about funk? Or perhaps good 80s synthy stuff? on 08:22 - Nov 12 by bluefunk |
Spot on Glassers, Kool & the Gang were a solid Street Funk band initially, and they certainly included plenty of Jazz elements, but then Funk always did - Cold Sweat grew out of Miles Davis’s So What, by reversing the riff. |
I have a kool and the gang double cd greatest hits, and the first disc is absolute gold. Second disc less so admittedly.... |  |
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