| Midfield options 08:54 - Jul 6 with 1678 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
Good to see images of Andre Dozzell, Emyr Huws and Teddy Bishop back in training and back in for a big pre season for the trio of them to get fitness back.
It will be interesting to see how Hurst shapes up the midfield this season. There's a very good balance of technical ability and youth.
I would presume Hurst will line us up how Shrewsbury did, 4-1-4-1, with a midfield of I presume Skuse as the holder and any of Huws/Downes/Bishop/Dozzell/Adeyemi/Nydam ahead.
I'd love to see Dozzell in there who is for me, the best/most technically gifted player in that squad, but personally got a feeling Hurst will select Adeyemi and Huws ahead of the holder DM.
Any ideas?
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| Midfield options on 09:05 - Jul 6 with 1649 views | christiand |
PH has many 'central' midfield options, I really hope he doesn't make the common mistake of trying to shoehorn them into the side, by playing lots of them out of position to accommodate them. Think this will impact on the effectiveness of the side otherwise, square pegs in square holes please! [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 9:06]
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| Midfield options on 09:08 - Jul 6 with 1621 views | Herbivore |
| Midfield options on 09:05 - Jul 6 by christiand |
PH has many 'central' midfield options, I really hope he doesn't make the common mistake of trying to shoehorn them into the side, by playing lots of them out of position to accommodate them. Think this will impact on the effectiveness of the side otherwise, square pegs in square holes please! [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 9:06]
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Agreed. Nydam has played wide left before so I wouldn't be horrified to see him playing there but I'd prefer a specialist winger. If we can keep everyone fit then we have fantastic options in the middle and can rotate to keep players fresh over the season which would be a real bonus. I have a feeling though that we could see Chalobah rather than Skuse in the holding role. |  |
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| Midfield options on 09:09 - Jul 6 with 1615 views | BiGDonnie |
Na Iv'e got a feeling Hurst won't stand for Skuse's bang average abilities and go with Downes as his main holding man! |  |
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| Midfield options on 09:13 - Jul 6 with 1597 views | Guthrum |
| Midfield options on 09:05 - Jul 6 by christiand |
PH has many 'central' midfield options, I really hope he doesn't make the common mistake of trying to shoehorn them into the side, by playing lots of them out of position to accommodate them. Think this will impact on the effectiveness of the side otherwise, square pegs in square holes please! [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 9:06]
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In which case, people musn't be upset if some of them are offloaded. We can't hang on to players we're not going to use just because they're young and came through our Academy. |  |
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| Midfield options on 09:22 - Jul 6 with 1571 views | christiand |
| Midfield options on 09:13 - Jul 6 by Guthrum |
In which case, people musn't be upset if some of them are offloaded. We can't hang on to players we're not going to use just because they're young and came through our Academy. |
We need some experience in there, but I wouldn't advocate selling our youngsters. Some of the older players need to pull their finger out and prove their worth, otherwise they could be the ones that get moved on. | |
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| Midfield options on 09:33 - Jul 6 with 1536 views | Guthrum |
| Midfield options on 09:22 - Jul 6 by christiand |
We need some experience in there, but I wouldn't advocate selling our youngsters. Some of the older players need to pull their finger out and prove their worth, otherwise they could be the ones that get moved on. |
Surely we need to hang on to whoever is most effective, irrespective of age (within reason)?
In a 4-1-4-1 system with a couple of proper wingers brought in, you might have Huws, Adeyemi, Dozzell, Nydam, Ward, Bishop, Folami, McLoughlin and even Sears, Patterson, Morris, Drinan or one of Waghorn/Garner all competing for the two attacking central midfield roles. That's a lot of spares, even allowing for a decent amount of cover. | |
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| Midfield options on 09:48 - Jul 6 with 1491 views | christiand |
| Midfield options on 09:33 - Jul 6 by Guthrum |
Surely we need to hang on to whoever is most effective, irrespective of age (within reason)?
In a 4-1-4-1 system with a couple of proper wingers brought in, you might have Huws, Adeyemi, Dozzell, Nydam, Ward, Bishop, Folami, McLoughlin and even Sears, Patterson, Morris, Drinan or one of Waghorn/Garner all competing for the two attacking central midfield roles. That's a lot of spares, even allowing for a decent amount of cover. |
You're quite right in what you say that the most effective need to play, but you also indicated that some of us can't get upset if we move players on that have come through our Academy. Well, looking at who PH has available they are the young lads. For me, there are a few senior players that need to prove themselves this season, they have spent too much time on the sidelines or not performed. Without being too crude they are probably the highest paid and a drain on the club's resources too. If they can't string a succession of games together, then it is time to move them on. That lone striker role is ideal for a big physical striker that is mobile and capable of holding the ball up, then you need the creative spark behind to create the chances. Apart from Garner, I'm not sure who else you'd play as your lone striker? I'm not convinced the others have that physical attribute and strength. I'm glad that I'm not making those decisions, PH has options but not all fit the criteria for that system especially as we look top heavy in central midfield. Certainly going to be interesting over pre season watching the developments both in how we play and possible transfer activity in and out of PR. | |
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| Midfield options on 10:02 - Jul 6 with 1465 views | Guthrum |
| Midfield options on 09:48 - Jul 6 by christiand |
You're quite right in what you say that the most effective need to play, but you also indicated that some of us can't get upset if we move players on that have come through our Academy. Well, looking at who PH has available they are the young lads. For me, there are a few senior players that need to prove themselves this season, they have spent too much time on the sidelines or not performed. Without being too crude they are probably the highest paid and a drain on the club's resources too. If they can't string a succession of games together, then it is time to move them on. That lone striker role is ideal for a big physical striker that is mobile and capable of holding the ball up, then you need the creative spark behind to create the chances. Apart from Garner, I'm not sure who else you'd play as your lone striker? I'm not convinced the others have that physical attribute and strength. I'm glad that I'm not making those decisions, PH has options but not all fit the criteria for that system especially as we look top heavy in central midfield. Certainly going to be interesting over pre season watching the developments both in how we play and possible transfer activity in and out of PR. |
If he's dead set on using a lone striker system, I'm not sure that man is in the building yet.
Waghorn, for all his instinctive skill and high workrate, is not quite right for the role. He isn't tall and he functions best with others to play off (hence why I put him into the possible ACM position). Not sure even Garner is all that suitable (again, not tall enough, needs to be better at staying on his feet). Sears and the younger players simply don't have the physical presence.
To be honest, I don't really like the lone striker as a system anyway. Too reliant on someone having the skill and strength to bring the ball down from head height and not lose it long enough to turn or for support to arrive. A fairly tall order, if you'll excuse the pun. Would far rather see us trying to get lots of bodies into the area with balls crossed in from the flanks, occupies the defence and gives more chance of someone getting a decent shot at goal. | |
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| Midfield options on 10:17 - Jul 6 with 1433 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
Not sure if the lone striker is the same sort of lone striker we would have been looking for with someone like Mick in charge, as although we will still play a bit direct at times I would hope that not every ball forward comes from Chambers, or is fired in at head height.
I think we will look to play into strikers feet/body and allow the midfield to collect the ball and play off the striker so good hold up play is still needed, but shouldn't have to turn water into wine by controlling impossible long balls with little support.
Personally I think Garner and Waghorn would both fit well enough into the way Hurst likes to play as can play with their back to goal and help link up play. |  | | |
| Midfield options on 12:17 - Jul 6 with 1319 views | Bluefish |
| Midfield options on 09:09 - Jul 6 by BiGDonnie |
Na Iv'e got a feeling Hurst won't stand for Skuse's bang average abilities and go with Downes as his main holding man! |
Have you ever seen them play? |  |
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| Midfield options on 13:27 - Jul 6 with 1218 views | chicoazul |
Skuse Dozzell Huws Adeyemi Bishop Nydam Downes Ward. Surely if most of those guys are fit we have at least a much better chance of retaining the ball and playing some attractive football for the first time in 2 years. |  |
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| Midfield options on 13:51 - Jul 6 with 1175 views | Freddy |
| Midfield options on 13:27 - Jul 6 by chicoazul |
Skuse Dozzell Huws Adeyemi Bishop Nydam Downes Ward. Surely if most of those guys are fit we have at least a much better chance of retaining the ball and playing some attractive football for the first time in 2 years. |
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