| What could possibly go wrong 13:25 - Jul 23 with 1214 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
Championship clubs are meeting over an £18m per year salary cap. In isolation that's sensible. Wasn't ours about that when we were not particularly competitive at that level? So it brings 2/3 of the clubs right down.
But League One will be meeting over a £2.5m one. So the clubs being promoted into the Championship would be starting with a wage bill around 7 times smaller than every other club. What does that create? Their own players asking to be paid 5 times more or clubs signing up a load of proven Championship players on £15k a week whilst the ones that got them promoted are still stuck on £3k?
Then you have the Premier League. What good are the parachute payments of £100m if you can only spend £18m on wages. Do they get a period of grace to go down to £40m, then £30m then £18m over a few seasons or do they just have to ditch their high earners straight away? Will then lead to these clubs having £80m sitting about that then gets spend on ridiculously inflated transfer fees to get them back up? £30m on the new Assambalonga anyone?
I completely agree a salary cap makes some modicum of sense but do you know what actually makes more sense. Proper f***ing FFP that is enforced properly.
That was clubs live within their means and if they get things right off the pitch and grow their fan base or do well on it then they get more money in and they get to enjoy that responsibly. Rather than bringing every team in each division in line with each other, only for the same teams to yo yo between divisions every year by and large because very few clubs will be able to bridge the gap.
Sheffield United, Millwall, Wycombe, Cheltenham all showed what can be achieved if you get things right on the pitch, but they didn't have to go up against clubs that had seven times their spending power too often.
Now the interesting thing about the salary cap is that the commercial side still comes into play. Wycombe can't spend £18m or they'd go bust if they went down. They might go bust staying up! It would be suicide.
So the size of the club and their revenues still drives it. So isn't it quicker, fairer and better to actually just enforce FFP properly and allow clubs to only spend what they make based on the division they they are in!!! |  |
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| What could possibly go wrong on 14:18 - Jul 23 with 1096 views | J2BLUE |
FFP is a load of sh1te and should be scrapped. It's clearly not enforceable and it seems to have done us a lot of damage as we seem to be one of only a few clubs in the land to actually take it seriously (because it's convenient but that's another debate).
I think Gary Neville's idea is better. Let people invest whatever they want but make sure they can pay the bills and honour the contracts they give out without endangering the club itself. I know he has a vested interest with Salford but it's a better system than FFP which is just ignored. This salary cap is ridiculous. Evans needs to realise very quickly that whatever grace period we get of being able to outspend most of the division is used to maximise our chances of going up. At the moment I see us eventually stabilising in mid table in league one if we don't learn from the Championship 'strategy'. |  |
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| What could possibly go wrong on 14:41 - Jul 23 with 1050 views | PhilTWTD |
I assume the £18m will be players' wages with U21s not included. While our overall wage bill in the last season in the Championship was £18m and a bit, the players' wage bill was about £11m or £12m.
Totally agree with you re the leap from £2.5m to £18m, hardly an easy step to make. |  | | |
| What could possibly go wrong on 14:51 - Jul 23 with 1010 views | Keno |
| What could possibly go wrong on 14:41 - Jul 23 by PhilTWTD |
I assume the £18m will be players' wages with U21s not included. While our overall wage bill in the last season in the Championship was £18m and a bit, the players' wage bill was about £11m or £12m.
Totally agree with you re the leap from £2.5m to £18m, hardly an easy step to make. |
In fairness Phil if anyone wants to offer to paid me £18mill I think I could cope with the increase |  |
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| What could possibly go wrong on 14:56 - Jul 23 with 993 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
| What could possibly go wrong on 14:41 - Jul 23 by PhilTWTD |
I assume the £18m will be players' wages with U21s not included. While our overall wage bill in the last season in the Championship was £18m and a bit, the players' wage bill was about £11m or £12m.
Totally agree with you re the leap from £2.5m to £18m, hardly an easy step to make. |
Thanks for clarifying Phil.
It just seems likely to feed into promoted clubs overhauling their enquire sides to keep up with the other clubs and then potentially having to bin them all a season later if they drop down.
I'd say that goes against clubs being run in a sensible sustainable way with planning, as you'd expect if there was such a thing as fit and proper FFP. | |
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| What could possibly go wrong on 15:06 - Jul 23 with 967 views | Coco |
| What could possibly go wrong on 14:18 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE |
FFP is a load of sh1te and should be scrapped. It's clearly not enforceable and it seems to have done us a lot of damage as we seem to be one of only a few clubs in the land to actually take it seriously (because it's convenient but that's another debate).
I think Gary Neville's idea is better. Let people invest whatever they want but make sure they can pay the bills and honour the contracts they give out without endangering the club itself. I know he has a vested interest with Salford but it's a better system than FFP which is just ignored. This salary cap is ridiculous. Evans needs to realise very quickly that whatever grace period we get of being able to outspend most of the division is used to maximise our chances of going up. At the moment I see us eventually stabilising in mid table in league one if we don't learn from the Championship 'strategy'. |
lol at that those mug clubs who tried to abide to it! Hope it hasn't caused too much damage. Maybe there is a lawsuit to cover any damages? |  |
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| What could possibly go wrong on 15:20 - Jul 23 with 935 views | Basuco |
| What could possibly go wrong on 14:18 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE |
FFP is a load of sh1te and should be scrapped. It's clearly not enforceable and it seems to have done us a lot of damage as we seem to be one of only a few clubs in the land to actually take it seriously (because it's convenient but that's another debate).
I think Gary Neville's idea is better. Let people invest whatever they want but make sure they can pay the bills and honour the contracts they give out without endangering the club itself. I know he has a vested interest with Salford but it's a better system than FFP which is just ignored. This salary cap is ridiculous. Evans needs to realise very quickly that whatever grace period we get of being able to outspend most of the division is used to maximise our chances of going up. At the moment I see us eventually stabilising in mid table in league one if we don't learn from the Championship 'strategy'. |
I think it is the "Gary Neville" idea that prompted the FFP plan, the FFP plan had to be introduced as clubs over committed themselves and could not pay the bills. Which was a result of the premier league clubs taking too big a slice of the TV revenues and starving the EFL of funds, which brings us back to the government saying the premier league needs to distribute more funds to the EFL. |  | | |
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