| Democracy in action? 13:49 - Sep 9 with 1167 views | DJR |
This from the Guardian.
"One Downing Street insider said Morgan McSweeney, Starmer’s influential chief of staff, hoped to “flood the zone” with contenders so that very few candidates ended up making it over the 80 threshold, limiting the choice presented to party members."
They'd already fixed selections and made it harder to be nominated because of the need for the support of 20% of MPs but even that isn't enough.
My prediction is that the contest will go down to only Lucy Powell and Bridget Philipson, and that Lucy Powell will be elected. But she is very much an establishment candidate.
And it's all very Machiavellian and one of the main reasons I left the party.
My choice would be Clive Lewis but the rule changes were designed to prevent someone like him being successfully nominated.
EDIT: In order to allow the pretence of democracy, maybe they would allow Alison McGovern into the race, but I can't see them being keen on Stella Creasey making it as they would regard her as outside the pale. Maybe however Labour MPs will show some backbone because I understand there is anger at attempt to hurry the process and do things on Zoom. [Post edited 9 Sep 15:20]
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| Democracy in action? on 15:08 - Sep 9 with 964 views | soupytwist |
Clive Lewis' performance on the PM programme last Friday basically made me think that he wouldn't want to be deputy leader of any party that would have him as deputy leader.
Or at least deputy leader under the likely way Labour would select a deputy leader. |  | | |
| Democracy in action? on 16:09 - Sep 9 with 841 views | Blueschev |
I have just finished reading Taken As Red by Anushka Asthana. It's well worth a read and really highlights that McSweeney, Starmer etc only seem to be interested in power for power's sake, which to me is as worrying as it is odd. I don't think I could vote for a party run by such people again if I'm honest. What's the point? |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:11 - Sep 9 with 834 views | Blueschev |
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| Democracy in action? on 16:14 - Sep 9 with 816 views | Perublue |
This thing that it HAS to be a Northern woman is so .. excuse the pun ..... laboured, |  |
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| Democracy in action? on 16:21 - Sep 9 with 781 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Democracy in action? on 16:09 - Sep 9 by Blueschev |
I have just finished reading Taken As Red by Anushka Asthana. It's well worth a read and really highlights that McSweeney, Starmer etc only seem to be interested in power for power's sake, which to me is as worrying as it is odd. I don't think I could vote for a party run by such people again if I'm honest. What's the point? |
IMO this is why the government is coming unstuck - the Labour right don't seem to have any principles other than being in power, which means when they get it, they don't really know what to do. |  | | |
| Democracy in action? on 16:26 - Sep 9 with 746 views | Blueschev |
| Democracy in action? on 16:21 - Sep 9 by Clapham_Junction |
IMO this is why the government is coming unstuck - the Labour right don't seem to have any principles other than being in power, which means when they get it, they don't really know what to do. |
The focus was completely on getting in to power. There doesn't seem to be any plan for what to do now they have it. | | | |
| Democracy in action? on 17:05 - Sep 9 with 634 views | DJR |
If this is what it's like with the grown-ups back in charge, I dread to think .... | | | |
| Democracy in action? on 17:52 - Sep 9 with 533 views | J2BLUE |
Surely better than offering options who are entirely incompatible with the PM?
Imagine Labour voters going for Emily Thornberry... |  |
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| Democracy in action? on 18:17 - Sep 9 with 480 views | Rimsy |
| Democracy in action? on 16:26 - Sep 9 by Blueschev |
The focus was completely on getting in to power. There doesn't seem to be any plan for what to do now they have it. |
With the Tories imploding at the last GE, Labour really didn't have to do anything other than sit back and watch. Starmer was very much in the background with no one really knowing what they were standing for. And that's how they've continued whilst in power, seemingly making up policies as they go, only to have them blow up in their faces. Starmer really is an awful pm. |  |
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| Democracy in action? on 18:37 - Sep 9 with 418 views | thebooks |
They’re now structured in such a way that it’ll be difficult to change.
The Labour Party is doing a politics that simply doesn’t exist now. It’s not just that things are moving rightward (or even leftward); I don’t think anyone really wants TINA and a government which basically says you can’t have nice things and government can’t do anything.
It’ll go the way of the Tories and other centre right parties. It’ll be one of the last to go as it’s propped up by FPTP. |  | | |
| Democracy in action? on 20:40 - Sep 9 with 257 views | jayessess |
| Democracy in action? on 17:52 - Sep 9 by J2BLUE |
Surely better than offering options who are entirely incompatible with the PM?
Imagine Labour voters going for Emily Thornberry... |
Think anything that expedites removing Starmer as leader ultimately benefits the Labour Party. [Post edited 9 Sep 20:45]
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