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I guess that was at the same time the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha's suddenly became the Windsors
Indeed and for the same reason.
Tho, to be fair, the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas only acquired that surname by marriage - Victoria to Albert - and by the Queen's choice to adopt it. The Hanovers were descended in direct line from the Stuarts (his mother, Sophia, who herself only missed becoming Queen by a couple of months, being the daughter of an Anglo-Scottish princess), themselves descendants of Henry VII, whose great-great-great-grandfather was Edward III.
Tho, to be fair, the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas only acquired that surname by marriage - Victoria to Albert - and by the Queen's choice to adopt it. The Hanovers were descended in direct line from the Stuarts (his mother, Sophia, who herself only missed becoming Queen by a couple of months, being the daughter of an Anglo-Scottish princess), themselves descendants of Henry VII, whose great-great-great-grandfather was Edward III.
Hanover would have possibly be seen as German as Saxe-Coburg-Gothas
There was a programme a few years back on who would be king had William of Orange not taken over the throne and it think it ended up as some bloke living in the Australia outback called Mike
Tho, to be fair, the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas only acquired that surname by marriage - Victoria to Albert - and by the Queen's choice to adopt it. The Hanovers were descended in direct line from the Stuarts (his mother, Sophia, who herself only missed becoming Queen by a couple of months, being the daughter of an Anglo-Scottish princess), themselves descendants of Henry VII, whose great-great-great-grandfather was Edward III.
Hanover would have possibly be seen as German as Saxe-Coburg-Gothas
There was a programme a few years back on who would be king had William of Orange not taken over the throne and it think it ended up as some bloke living in the Australia outback called Mike
Random I know, but I felt like sharing
Yes, I remember seeing that. Altho, IIRC, there was a slightly dubious step or two in his claim to a line of succession, too (not in his ancestry, more which way the crown would have passed at certain points).
It was Victoria's fault we are no longer linked to Hanover. As a woman, she was unable to inherit that title under the Salic law in force there. So it went to her uncle, Ernest Augustus*. The Kingdom of Hanover was annexed by Prussia in 1866, ceasing to exist.
* The imortance of being Ernest (rather than Victoria)?
Yes, I remember seeing that. Altho, IIRC, there was a slightly dubious step or two in his claim to a line of succession, too (not in his ancestry, more which way the crown would have passed at certain points).
It was Victoria's fault we are no longer linked to Hanover. As a woman, she was unable to inherit that title under the Salic law in force there. So it went to her uncle, Ernest Augustus*. The Kingdom of Hanover was annexed by Prussia in 1866, ceasing to exist.
* The imortance of being Ernest (rather than Victoria)?
You mention Prussia.
Considering it was such a powerful European force 102 -150 years ago it has disappeared and seems to mainly fall within Polish borders nowadays
Are you aware of any Prussia nationalist type movement trying to get get it re-established?
Considering it was such a powerful European force 102 -150 years ago it has disappeared and seems to mainly fall within Polish borders nowadays
Are you aware of any Prussia nationalist type movement trying to get get it re-established?
Prussian militarism gained such a bad rep during the First World War (and as a result of losing it) that it lost a lot of credibility. Then much of historic Prussia was handed to the Poles in 1945 - East Prussia and the lands east of the Oder river - with almost all the rest falling under the rule of the communists, who had a big downer on Prussianism.
There are some irridentist elements among the German far right, but the real traditional link with Prussia of old has been broken. They mosly look to the nazis for inspiration, who on the whole despised the Prussian aristocracy.
Prussian militarism gained such a bad rep during the First World War (and as a result of losing it) that it lost a lot of credibility. Then much of historic Prussia was handed to the Poles in 1945 - East Prussia and the lands east of the Oder river - with almost all the rest falling under the rule of the communists, who had a big downer on Prussianism.
There are some irridentist elements among the German far right, but the real traditional link with Prussia of old has been broken. They mosly look to the nazis for inspiration, who on the whole despised the Prussian aristocracy.
Its an interesting 'quirk' of history that with so many 'old countries' having been re-established Prussia is almost forgotten
Its an interesting 'quirk' of history that with so many 'old countries' having been re-established Prussia is almost forgotten
The rise and fall of Prussia as a major player in Europe really took only about 200 years. Mostly the creation of two men, Frederick the Great and Bismarck.
Old Prussian (pagan, pre-Germanic) boundary markers in Gdansk:
The rise and fall of Prussia as a major player in Europe really took only about 200 years. Mostly the creation of two men, Frederick the Great and Bismarck.
Old Prussian (pagan, pre-Germanic) boundary markers in Gdansk:
Gdansk AKA Danzig of corridor fame
Looks like Boris and Dominic have been around longer than we thought!!
The rise and fall of Prussia as a major player in Europe really took only about 200 years. Mostly the creation of two men, Frederick the Great and Bismarck.
Old Prussian (pagan, pre-Germanic) boundary markers in Gdansk:
Although the style of enlightenment adopted by Frederick the Great can be seen to have fed through to a greater Germany that was established in 1848.
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