| Many Managers play 433 or 442 11:33 - Dec 5 with 352 views | chicoazul |
I’d like to see a proper 433 given a go when the new guy comes in.
Morsy with Harper one side and Fraser the other, then Edwards and Chaplin with Bonne/Piggott.
May mean we can get away with having less attacking full backs too. |  |
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| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:41 - Dec 5 with 315 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
This is the question though isn't it? Its been said many a time that Cook bought the wrong players for a 4-2-3-1. So what is our best formation? 3-5-2 maybe?
Walton
Wolfie Burgess Edmundson
Burns Morsy Chaplin Fraser Edwards
Pigott Bonne
Is Edwards going to track back? What do you do about Celina?, Coulson?, Barry? |  |
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| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:48 - Dec 5 with 290 views | gordon |
To be fair, I think most of the premier league managers who use 4-3-3 (Man City/Liverpool etc) play it because it allows the two wide central midfielders provide cover to full-backs bombing forward.
Liam Manning is playing a 3-4-3 type formation at MK Dons with ball-playing wide centre-backs - think with our players it'd look something like:
----Donacien--Edmundson--Woolfenden
KVY/Burns--------Morsy-------Fraser----------Coulson
----------Aluko----Pigott------Chaplin
The real issue for me with our players and these modern formations which fit in more attacking players is that those attacking players have to work really really hard, track runners / press intelligently when you lose possession - under Cook this just hasn't been the case at all.
Also, a more modern manager like Manning would really like someone like Woolfenden - remember how (for example) Guardiola stuck with John Stones for years when it seemed like he'd give away a goal every other week, because of the attacking benefit to having a ball-playing centre-back in the team.
With players like Burgess / Nsiala in contrast, the brutal truth is that they can't commit an opposition player, they have to have 20 yards of space in front of them to be comfortable getting their head up to look for a pass, which means the other team has an extra player closing down our midfielders etc. [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 11:49]
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| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:50 - Dec 5 with 269 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:48 - Dec 5 by gordon |
To be fair, I think most of the premier league managers who use 4-3-3 (Man City/Liverpool etc) play it because it allows the two wide central midfielders provide cover to full-backs bombing forward.
Liam Manning is playing a 3-4-3 type formation at MK Dons with ball-playing wide centre-backs - think with our players it'd look something like:
----Donacien--Edmundson--Woolfenden
KVY/Burns--------Morsy-------Fraser----------Coulson
----------Aluko----Pigott------Chaplin
The real issue for me with our players and these modern formations which fit in more attacking players is that those attacking players have to work really really hard, track runners / press intelligently when you lose possession - under Cook this just hasn't been the case at all.
Also, a more modern manager like Manning would really like someone like Woolfenden - remember how (for example) Guardiola stuck with John Stones for years when it seemed like he'd give away a goal every other week, because of the attacking benefit to having a ball-playing centre-back in the team.
With players like Burgess / Nsiala in contrast, the brutal truth is that they can't commit an opposition player, they have to have 20 yards of space in front of them to be comfortable getting their head up to look for a pass, which means the other team has an extra player closing down our midfielders etc. [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 11:49]
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No Burns in there? Who we've missed badly. | |
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| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:51 - Dec 5 with 265 views | Dubtractor |
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on the merits of different systems, but we've got so many quality attacking players we need to get a system that makes the most of them, whatever that system may be. |  |
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| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:51 - Dec 5 with 261 views | Garv |
| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:41 - Dec 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
This is the question though isn't it? Its been said many a time that Cook bought the wrong players for a 4-2-3-1. So what is our best formation? 3-5-2 maybe?
Walton
Wolfie Burgess Edmundson
Burns Morsy Chaplin Fraser Edwards
Pigott Bonne
Is Edwards going to track back? What do you do about Celina?, Coulson?, Barry? |
Is that accurate though?
The two full backs he brought in suit it, the two midfield sitters have played it under him before, we got all sorts of attacking players and we have strikers capable of playing up top alone.
I think things could have been a lot different if Burns had been fit for more games, Coulson hadn't been decimated by injury, and the full back position hadn't been so up and down in general (JD, KVY, Penney, Coulson, Clements, Burgess even - too many). |  |
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| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:52 - Dec 5 with 253 views | gordon |
| Many Managers play 433 or 442 on 11:50 - Dec 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
No Burns in there? Who we've missed badly. |
Lol, true enough had edited it to add him in as an option at RWB. | | | |
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