| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 16:48 - Jan 7 with 1531 views | Steve_M |
That is positive but certainly not the only thing driving pressure on the NHS. All the other covid cases do and rates of those are climbing massively everywhere except London.
it's important not to cherry pick here. |  |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 16:55 - Jan 7 with 1504 views | footers |
Because celebrating it would only exacerbate the problem with people not adhering to guidance. If people are so pleased with this, maybe they should think about the millions of people on NHS waiting lists who are being denied treatment because beds are taken up with covid patients who needn't really be there had they exercised more caution or (at the very least) been vaccinated. |  |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 16:56 - Jan 7 with 1498 views | Basuco |
On average over the last seven days there have been 160 covid death's per day, that is still a very high and shows we have a fair way to go yet. |  | | |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 17:01 - Jan 7 with 1458 views | Swansea_Blue |
There have been wall to wall headlines on how this is a mild strain for many weeks now. If anything the risk to overwhelming the NHS through the sheer numbers of cases (even if fewer are requiring ventilation) has been underplayed. |  |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 18:28 - Jan 7 with 1343 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 17:01 - Jan 7 by Swansea_Blue |
There have been wall to wall headlines on how this is a mild strain for many weeks now. If anything the risk to overwhelming the NHS through the sheer numbers of cases (even if fewer are requiring ventilation) has been underplayed. |
In my Trust we have 6 patients in ICU. 2 are vaccinated with an average age of ~80. Four unvaccinated - with an average age of 51.
Its too early to say that we have bottomed out, the number of covid +ve cases is triple the number in mid December - but many of those are patients who came in for other things and were tested and found to be positive.
Moral is - get vaccinated. |  |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 18:52 - Jan 7 with 1286 views | BlueBadger |
We've basically stopped intubating for covid, because it just prolongs the inevitable in a significant majority of cases. The ITUs are still full because we have high numbers of people needing non-invasive CPAP and/or high flow oxygen. The majority of these are unvaccinated, to boot. So, basically, you're being extremely disingenuous here.
There is currently nothing to celebrate, because capacity is still dangerously stretched.
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 18:56 - Jan 7 with 1267 views | BlueBadger |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 16:48 - Jan 7 by Steve_M |
That is positive but certainly not the only thing driving pressure on the NHS. All the other covid cases do and rates of those are climbing massively everywhere except London.
it's important not to cherry pick here. |
Rather disenguous from the OP as well. ITUs are by no means empty. It's pretty rare now that we intubate the severely unwell with COVID, because it simply prolongs the inevitable, more often than not.
We still have plenty of seriously ill, unvaccinated people in ITU, it's just that they are generally managed with CPAP and/or high flow oxygen now. | |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 21:30 - Jan 7 with 1100 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 18:56 - Jan 7 by BlueBadger |
Rather disenguous from the OP as well. ITUs are by no means empty. It's pretty rare now that we intubate the severely unwell with COVID, because it simply prolongs the inevitable, more often than not.
We still have plenty of seriously ill, unvaccinated people in ITU, it's just that they are generally managed with CPAP and/or high flow oxygen now. |
Not sure why they are in ICU then. Our patients on CPAP and BIPAP are on respiratory wards. | |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 09:37 - Jan 8 with 847 views | BlueBadger |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 21:30 - Jan 7 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Not sure why they are in ICU then. Our patients on CPAP and BIPAP are on respiratory wards. |
Small trust, limited amount of beds with staff trained in CPAP and the ones in ITU are those who theoretically *could* be intubated. | |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 09:48 - Jan 8 with 831 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 09:37 - Jan 8 by BlueBadger |
Small trust, limited amount of beds with staff trained in CPAP and the ones in ITU are those who theoretically *could* be intubated. |
ok makes sense. Our ICU is full - only about 33% are in for Covid, but generally lots of seriously ill for a variety of reasons. For us it's been a case on converting first one and then the second of the respiratory wards to managing the covid patients on CPAP and NIV. Far more in this wave who are just getting oxygen support so far, but its still early days and nationally the number of deaths is increasing. | |
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| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 12:35 - Jan 8 with 723 views | jas0999 |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 16:55 - Jan 7 by footers |
Because celebrating it would only exacerbate the problem with people not adhering to guidance. If people are so pleased with this, maybe they should think about the millions of people on NHS waiting lists who are being denied treatment because beds are taken up with covid patients who needn't really be there had they exercised more caution or (at the very least) been vaccinated. |
The data doesn’t lie. Vast majority in hospital with covid are unvaccinated. A number of people in hospital who are vaccinated, but have covid, are being treated for other things. |  | | |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 12:43 - Jan 8 with 710 views | Churchman |
| Lowest amount of patients in mechanical ventilation beds in England on 18:52 - Jan 7 by BlueBadger |
We've basically stopped intubating for covid, because it just prolongs the inevitable in a significant majority of cases. The ITUs are still full because we have high numbers of people needing non-invasive CPAP and/or high flow oxygen. The majority of these are unvaccinated, to boot. So, basically, you're being extremely disingenuous here.
There is currently nothing to celebrate, because capacity is still dangerously stretched.
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Thank you to those who are actually working with this for your information on what you see - in addition to the great work you do. Bar the odd very well informed/knowledgeable poster on here, it’s the only information I trust.
Media and politicians all have agendas which means the truth is there to be manipulated, twisted, ignored if it suits them. |  | | |
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