| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines 09:13 - Dec 8 with 1896 views | StokieBlue |
Essentially the parents of a four month old boy who has a congenital heart defect and requires life-saving surgery refused to allow the surgery unless the blood being used could be proven to be "unvaccinated".
"They said they were concerned about the possible health impacts of their child receiving blood from vaccinated donors."
They are more concerned about the possible (non-existent in reality) health impacts of receiving blood from someone vaccinated against C19 than they are about their sons congenital heart defect which would likely have the very real health impact of their son dying.
The courts decided to grant guardianship of the boy to medical specialists with regards to this matter but not any others so he will receive the life-saving surgery he needs.
https://news.sky.com/story/sick-baby-taken-into-courts-custody-after-parents-ref
I just despair at the mental gymnastics which must have been required for the parents to come to the conclusion that blood which could contain antibodies (it wouldn't contain the vaccine itself) is more dangerous than an actual life-threatening heart defect.
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:20 - Dec 8 with 1836 views | itfcjoe |
When my wife's uncle was a baby he was very ill, and need a full blood transfusion - must have been mid-late 60s.
His parents lived on a street where lots of Jehovahs Witnesses did and almost became pariahs as they were lobbying them not to go ahead with blood transfusion for him because they don't believe in them.
Whether it be religion, or crank science, there will always be people with ridiculous beliefs that put people in danger - at least it is easier to call out bad science than religion |  |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:32 - Dec 8 with 1774 views | giant_stow |
I guess this puts meat on the bones of you own campaign against vaccine misinformation - here's a direct result. They've made such a mental decision, that it must call into question their capability to be good parents in future. |  |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:33 - Dec 8 with 1766 views | DJR |
Fortunately, the courts are able to intervene in such cases because the best interests of the child are paramount.
But there sure are some crazy people out there. |  | | |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:33 - Dec 8 with 1764 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Illogical perhaps but surely not difficult to comply with the parents' wishes in this instance? |  |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:34 - Dec 8 with 1740 views | giant_stow |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:33 - Dec 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Illogical perhaps but surely not difficult to comply with the parents' wishes in this instance? |
Cover that in the link mr | |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:35 - Dec 8 with 1734 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:32 - Dec 8 by giant_stow |
I guess this puts meat on the bones of you own campaign against vaccine misinformation - here's a direct result. They've made such a mental decision, that it must call into question their capability to be good parents in future. |
Now there's a mental leap....Best put the kid in care now then. | |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:37 - Dec 8 with 1726 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:34 - Dec 8 by giant_stow |
Cover that in the link mr |
Better read it later then....thanks.
Maybe the parents should have to arrange getting the blood from their illogical friends.
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:39 - Dec 8 with 1722 views | Basuco |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:33 - Dec 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Illogical perhaps but surely not difficult to comply with the parents' wishes in this instance? |
As a regular blood donor I can't recall ever being asked if I have had a Covid vaccine and it is not a question that is asked prior to donating either, so I can't see how they would know. |  | | |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:47 - Dec 8 with 1696 views | Basuco |
Nearly as bad as a guy on TV who refused to have a Covd vaccine but bought tablets off the internet when he caught Covid! He died but not from the tablets. | | | |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:49 - Dec 8 with 1686 views | BlueBadger |
Urrrgh. Efff anti-vaxxers. Deluded sociopaths who genuinely rather see children die over being protected against preventable disease. |  |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:53 - Dec 8 with 1623 views | BlueBadger |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:35 - Dec 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Now there's a mental leap....Best put the kid in care now then. |
Fun fact - not getting your kids jabbed is one of many red flags that children may potentially be on the receiving end of parental abuse, either via (intentional or unintentional)neglect or deliberate harm. Its not taken as a sign in isolation, but it's a tick in a box of a whole load of other behaviours and signs.
Given that they've gone this far with this delusional madness it does make one wonder what other harms they're potentially inflicting on their kids.
In this case, it's been successfully argued that they're causing active harm to their child thanks to their lunatic beliefs and irrational insistence on something which isn't realistically deliverable. [Post edited 8 Dec 2022 10:31]
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 10:03 - Dec 8 with 1553 views | giant_stow |
| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 09:53 - Dec 8 by BlueBadger |
Fun fact - not getting your kids jabbed is one of many red flags that children may potentially be on the receiving end of parental abuse, either via (intentional or unintentional)neglect or deliberate harm. Its not taken as a sign in isolation, but it's a tick in a box of a whole load of other behaviours and signs.
Given that they've gone this far with this delusional madness it does make one wonder what other harms they're potentially inflicting on their kids.
In this case, it's been successfully argued that they're causing active harm to their child thanks to their lunatic beliefs and irrational insistence on something which isn't realistically deliverable. [Post edited 8 Dec 2022 10:31]
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+1 and Bankster, I did say 'call into question' - i would never suggest taking a baby of parents lightly - its an utter last resort, but this case does make you wonder about the kid's future. | |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 13:12 - Dec 8 with 1314 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Agreed. I had thought they would have to arrange the logistics at their expense. | |
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| A horrible example of illogical behaviour around vaccines on 14:05 - Dec 9 with 1052 views | StokieBlue |
Update:
The baby boy has had the life-saving heart operation and is doing well. The parents originally agreed to not interfere after the decision but then the courts were forced to issue a minute against them as they were preventing the doctors preparation for the operation.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/09/new-zealand-baby-w-case-boy-has-su
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