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Loach believes Extinction Rebellion’s “choice to focus its disruption on the government and status quo rather than on ordinary people is timely”. She says it will help bring in some folks who have been alienated from the movement and made to feel like activists are the enemy. “They will now remember that, in actual fact, we all have a shared enemy and that is the ruling class.”
In It’s Not That Radical, Loach reframes the climate change debate, arguing that it requires racial equality — a pathway to a better world for everyone, regardless of class, colour, where you live, or any other stratification that currently shapes a life. She wants everyone to know that “The climate crisis came from the same systems of repression that cause people harm today.”
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Oh no it isn't - sorry, but the root of our intractable problem, that could spell the end of our species and many others, is irrational consumption. And we are all responsible for that. Where the 'ruling class' (although how they can be a ruling class when they are so obviously not in control of the elements that threaten to overwhelm us) are at fault is in establishing psychological control of behaviour that is detrimental to all - including the ruling class. As with any form of abusive manipulation the key is to walk away and not engage with it. And that means giving up reliance on the material rewards that are promised and to start the search for sustainable and healthy lifestyles that can give more worthwhile rewards. This cannot be done without taking on the personal responsibility of a custodian for everyone and everything you come into contact with - and not leaving that up to some supposed ruling class.
It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 08:26 - Apr 17 by WeWereZombies
Oh no it isn't - sorry, but the root of our intractable problem, that could spell the end of our species and many others, is irrational consumption. And we are all responsible for that. Where the 'ruling class' (although how they can be a ruling class when they are so obviously not in control of the elements that threaten to overwhelm us) are at fault is in establishing psychological control of behaviour that is detrimental to all - including the ruling class. As with any form of abusive manipulation the key is to walk away and not engage with it. And that means giving up reliance on the material rewards that are promised and to start the search for sustainable and healthy lifestyles that can give more worthwhile rewards. This cannot be done without taking on the personal responsibility of a custodian for everyone and everything you come into contact with - and not leaving that up to some supposed ruling class.
But irrational consumerism is fed by every message everywhere (media/advertising) to line the pockets of the wealthy ( on a national and international level) Although it would be fair to point out that the rich are going to save us all by driving Teslas.
Having read your full comment now, it sounds like we probably agree....I definitely am not advocating waiting for the change to come from above. The problem though is definitely a result of our economic/class construct and thus needs dismantling.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 08:37 - Apr 17 by BanksterDebtSlave
But irrational consumerism is fed by every message everywhere (media/advertising) to line the pockets of the wealthy ( on a national and international level) Although it would be fair to point out that the rich are going to save us all by driving Teslas.
Having read your full comment now, it sounds like we probably agree....I definitely am not advocating waiting for the change to come from above. The problem though is definitely a result of our economic/class construct and thus needs dismantling.
Agree.
Although we should all be doing our bit, the wealthy clearly have a much higher footprint. See the picture of the private jets at the local airport before the Masters for a nice visual.
It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 08:26 - Apr 17 by WeWereZombies
Oh no it isn't - sorry, but the root of our intractable problem, that could spell the end of our species and many others, is irrational consumption. And we are all responsible for that. Where the 'ruling class' (although how they can be a ruling class when they are so obviously not in control of the elements that threaten to overwhelm us) are at fault is in establishing psychological control of behaviour that is detrimental to all - including the ruling class. As with any form of abusive manipulation the key is to walk away and not engage with it. And that means giving up reliance on the material rewards that are promised and to start the search for sustainable and healthy lifestyles that can give more worthwhile rewards. This cannot be done without taking on the personal responsibility of a custodian for everyone and everything you come into contact with - and not leaving that up to some supposed ruling class.
Totally agree. The 'average' person in the consumer world is both a direct contributor to the near-terminal state of our environment and human life support system, and an enabler of the illogical concept of a consumption-driven ever-expanding economic system.
So the 'average' person has to face facts and stop making idiotic excuses for their own over-consumption and take some personal responsibility. They also have to contribute to a radical change of the corrupt and narcissistic system, either politically or through direct action.
The two are not mutually exclusive, and must be done simultaneously in practical ways putting aside ego. There's almost no time left to save ourselves, our children and our world.
It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 08:37 - Apr 17 by BanksterDebtSlave
But irrational consumerism is fed by every message everywhere (media/advertising) to line the pockets of the wealthy ( on a national and international level) Although it would be fair to point out that the rich are going to save us all by driving Teslas.
Having read your full comment now, it sounds like we probably agree....I definitely am not advocating waiting for the change to come from above. The problem though is definitely a result of our economic/class construct and thus needs dismantling.
we can bicker about who is responsible, and you can blame the system if it makes you happy, but the essential fact is that in the west we consume too much. we collectively fly too much (and that's not a minority activity), we drive too much and have too many cars (electric just increases the resource cost of each car); on average we live in spaces which are too big and which consume too much energy; we consume too many things that have to travel around the world; we interact socially in the most energy intensive manner in history (server farms etc). middle class western life styles are the problem. as a species we crave novelty and status through difference - and we have an economic system which is stupendously good at producing technical change and consumption variety. the economic system hasn't created our craving to consume - but it has been spectacularly good at enabling us to do it.
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 12:37 - Apr 17 with 542 views
It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 09:59 - Apr 17 by NthQldITFC
Totally agree. The 'average' person in the consumer world is both a direct contributor to the near-terminal state of our environment and human life support system, and an enabler of the illogical concept of a consumption-driven ever-expanding economic system.
So the 'average' person has to face facts and stop making idiotic excuses for their own over-consumption and take some personal responsibility. They also have to contribute to a radical change of the corrupt and narcissistic system, either politically or through direct action.
The two are not mutually exclusive, and must be done simultaneously in practical ways putting aside ego. There's almost no time left to save ourselves, our children and our world.
Guess we all need to give away games amiss then
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It's always class war.....climate change edition. on 13:06 - Apr 17 with 486 views
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