| Muric. 09:45 - Jan 20 with 1659 views | FromReuserWithLove |
A better all round keeper and stronger presence than Walton imo. Does have that error in him with his feet but I'd rather persist with him. [Post edited 20 Jan 9:50]
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| Muric. on 09:48 - Jan 20 with 1623 views | Guthrum |
Tho, in Walton's partial defence, he did make that save one-on-one with Haaland. Not a thing anybody's 'keepers have done that often. |  |
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| Muric. on 09:49 - Jan 20 with 1607 views | _clive_baker_ |
Agreed I think. I would go with this lineup against Liverpool, its a bit of a free hit, but then I would stick with it for the forseeeable:
Muric
Godfrey O'Shea Greaves
Johnson Phillips Cajuste Davis
Hutchinson Philogene
Delap
We've spent a lot of money on a number of those players (obviously not compared to Liverpool), go out and show us why... |  | | |
| Muric. on 10:14 - Jan 20 with 1475 views | catch74 |
| Muric. on 09:49 - Jan 20 by _clive_baker_ |
Agreed I think. I would go with this lineup against Liverpool, its a bit of a free hit, but then I would stick with it for the forseeeable:
Muric
Godfrey O'Shea Greaves
Johnson Phillips Cajuste Davis
Hutchinson Philogene
Delap
We've spent a lot of money on a number of those players (obviously not compared to Liverpool), go out and show us why... |
Interestingly, other than Hutch, all this years signings and probably the team McKenna is aiming for .
I do wonder where Axel could start plus Burns (for Johnson & Godfrey obviously) and Broadhead are the in form old boys. Maybe give Hutchinson a rest and hopefully make an impact as a sub. |  |
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| Muric. on 10:31 - Jan 20 with 1398 views | OldFart71 |
Blaming a keeper for one mistake when six have been put past him is not the way to go. We have what we have at present keeper wise. I would suggest that in reality neither are Premier standard. That doesn't mean they are bad keepers but you, like every other player, have to be a step up from the Championship. Many Premier teams have two top class keepers. If a centre forward misses three gilt edge chances and then scores he's a hero. If a keeper makes three or four outstanding saves and then makes a mistake he's a villain. Context is what this season is all about and whilst I see the frustration of many who pay their hard earned to turn up at PR every home game we do have to realise that a large percentage of the squad haven't played Premier League football. Some of the recruits haven't had many games to get to where they need to be and a handful aren't good enough. We have to accept that. At least we won't go into administration if we did go down. We have players who could be sold and still have a decent squad and the experience of seeing some top teams. We knew it would be hard and it is. Try not to cloud the enjoyment of two promotions and owners that care. |  | | |
| Muric. on 10:41 - Jan 20 with 1326 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Muric. on 10:31 - Jan 20 by OldFart71 |
Blaming a keeper for one mistake when six have been put past him is not the way to go. We have what we have at present keeper wise. I would suggest that in reality neither are Premier standard. That doesn't mean they are bad keepers but you, like every other player, have to be a step up from the Championship. Many Premier teams have two top class keepers. If a centre forward misses three gilt edge chances and then scores he's a hero. If a keeper makes three or four outstanding saves and then makes a mistake he's a villain. Context is what this season is all about and whilst I see the frustration of many who pay their hard earned to turn up at PR every home game we do have to realise that a large percentage of the squad haven't played Premier League football. Some of the recruits haven't had many games to get to where they need to be and a handful aren't good enough. We have to accept that. At least we won't go into administration if we did go down. We have players who could be sold and still have a decent squad and the experience of seeing some top teams. We knew it would be hard and it is. Try not to cloud the enjoyment of two promotions and owners that care. |
I'm not blaming anyone for anything just saying I think Muric is the best keeper we have at the club. I agree with the post above regarding KM selecting a settled side with his new signings. | | | |
| Muric. on 10:49 - Jan 20 with 1282 views | WeirdFishes |
Classic case of a player getting better when not playing. He’s a liability who instils fear into the defence, he’s also contributed the most goals due to mistakes in the league. He’s should not be playing for us whatsoever. |  |
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| Muric. on 10:55 - Jan 20 with 1245 views | gsoly |
| Muric. on 09:49 - Jan 20 by _clive_baker_ |
Agreed I think. I would go with this lineup against Liverpool, its a bit of a free hit, but then I would stick with it for the forseeeable:
Muric
Godfrey O'Shea Greaves
Johnson Phillips Cajuste Davis
Hutchinson Philogene
Delap
We've spent a lot of money on a number of those players (obviously not compared to Liverpool), go out and show us why... |
In a way I still view Axel as a 'new' signing and certainly a PL-level player. Would put him in over Godfrey and possibly Burns over Johnson, but otherwise heartily agree with the below Clive - and would like to see much more consistency in selection now we have a week between games for a good month. |  | | |
| Muric. on 10:55 - Jan 20 with 1244 views | Whos_blue |
I agree. He has a blunder in him, that's for sure, but pound for pound I think he's better.
This doesn't mean I think Walton is poor BTW, though I do think Walton seems to enjoy better support from fans.
I certainly haven't heard any C bombs thrown his way. |  |
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| Muric. on 11:03 - Jan 20 with 1198 views | IP9 |
| Muric. on 10:49 - Jan 20 by WeirdFishes |
Classic case of a player getting better when not playing. He’s a liability who instils fear into the defence, he’s also contributed the most goals due to mistakes in the league. He’s should not be playing for us whatsoever. |
Spot on, could not agree more. There's a noticeable shakiness in defence when Muric plays, and he was awful against Bristol Rovers with his feet (again). Walton oozes far more confidence in this regard, and actually defended his box well yesterday. | | | |
| Muric. on 11:22 - Jan 20 with 1123 views | bsw72 |
I really like him, but I think it is too late as a large part of the fan base have now written him off, and so react negatively to him.
It was interesting driving to the game yesterday listening to 5 Live commentary of the Man Utd game - Dion Dublin made a comment that too many people now look at the keeper to act like an outfield player, and forget that the primary responsibility is to save shots.
While I am not Dublin's biggest fan, I do think there is a valid point here - another gift of modern football. |  | | |
| Muric. on 11:24 - Jan 20 with 1101 views | baxterbasics |
Am inclined to agree on Muric.
But not so strongly that I would moan either way - KM still knows best and all that. |  |
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| Muric. on 11:25 - Jan 20 with 1085 views | FifeITFC |
| Muric. on 11:03 - Jan 20 by IP9 |
Spot on, could not agree more. There's a noticeable shakiness in defence when Muric plays, and he was awful against Bristol Rovers with his feet (again). Walton oozes far more confidence in this regard, and actually defended his box well yesterday. |
Have to say, I feel far more confident and safer with Walton in goal than I do Muric. Whether it's because we're used to Walton, but Muric makes me feel very nervous.
Hope he proves me wrong, but it's a vote for Walton for me all day long right now. |  |
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| Muric. on 11:30 - Jan 20 with 1044 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
I've said it on another thread before but I strongly believe neither keeper is good enough to keep us up.
I would persist with Muric over Walton. Muric has the better attributes but it's his decision making that has been the most questionable.
A new keeper is more important to me than another striker at this moment. Delap & Hirst aren't a problem if they stay fit, but I would like another that isn't AAH. |  |
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| Muric. on 11:31 - Jan 20 with 1032 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Muric. on 09:49 - Jan 20 by _clive_baker_ |
Agreed I think. I would go with this lineup against Liverpool, its a bit of a free hit, but then I would stick with it for the forseeeable:
Muric
Godfrey O'Shea Greaves
Johnson Phillips Cajuste Davis
Hutchinson Philogene
Delap
We've spent a lot of money on a number of those players (obviously not compared to Liverpool), go out and show us why... |
Would put Axel straight back in - Godfrey can either move forwards and replace Johnson, or out in my view
Agree with Greaves back in. Burgess did well in the air v Haarland, and played some nice balls up the left for Leif, but the triangle of Greaves / Davis / Cajuste worked really nicely v Brighton and that feels more important going forwards | | | |
| Muric. on 11:48 - Jan 20 with 927 views | ibbleobble |
| Muric. on 10:49 - Jan 20 by WeirdFishes |
Classic case of a player getting better when not playing. He’s a liability who instils fear into the defence, he’s also contributed the most goals due to mistakes in the league. He’s should not be playing for us whatsoever. |
…and fans having short term memories and looking for the easiest denominator to make change. It’s mad how some folk are almost trying to find faults with Walton to justify bring Muric back in who has had a lot of calamities way beyond any of Walton’s failings. | | | |
| Muric. on 12:05 - Jan 20 with 861 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
It's maybe not fair to scrutinise all the goals, but in the context of Muric vs Walton as a starter, it becomes inevitable after yesterday.
As to the goals, I don't think either keeper would have stopped the 2nd goal. Struck very well, with excellent pace and direction. That one's not down to the keeper. Defence could have closed down better - too much space on the edge of the box.
The 5th and 6th are not down to the keeper either, and the 4th wasn't on target without a deflection by O'Shea, and Edmundson may have cleared or Haaland slotted it in. With the deflection though, and O'Shea so close to Walton, that one's hard to fault Walton for, although it did go between his hands.
However, the 1st and 3rd are exactly the types of shots that Muric has done well with. He's so fast to react and get down for shots like that, and has stopped several this season. We'll never know, but I think that Muric may have stopped those - and without the first going in, the game is completely different. The 3rd just before half time killed off the game, having gone under Walton's body. Would this have prevented us from losing? Probably not, even if we were only 1 nil down at halftime, but may well of converted a rout into a slim defeat.
Of course, this is all what-ifs, and we'll never know how yesterday may have been different with Muric between the sticks , but over the course of a season I feel there are less goals conceded with Muric playing than Walton. | | | |
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